French Racism Shocks Singer GACKT During Recent Stay


Japanese pop star, actor, author, and all-round renaissance man, GACKT, who is known for his individual style, has recently updated his blog, detailing a recent trip to France.

While staying in the country awaiting a connecting flight, GACKT experienced racism at the breakfast buffet of a French restaurant, when he noticed that the staff appeared to be guiding Asian customers to the back of the restaurant, allowing white customers to sit at the front and enjoy the beautiful views…

From mixi News:

GACKT Astonished At Blatant Racism In France

On March 30, singer GACKT (41) updated his blog, and revealed that on a recent visit to France, he had faced racism at a hotel.

GACKT was staying over in France due to a connecting flight. He stayed in a hotel close to the airport, and as he approached the buffet in an attempt to get some breakfast, he said a member of staff was blatantly racist toward him.

There were no other customers at the buffet, and GACKT, who wanted to gaze out at the scenery, took a seat near to the entrance. However, a member of staff rushed over to him, and indicated that he should move further inside the restaurant.

GACKT did not pay too much attention, and did as he was told: “Well, the restaurant was pretty empty, so I didn’t take much notice and just moved as I was told to”, but after that he noticed that white customers who had come in to the restaurant were sitting in the seats near the entrance. This made GACKT question things: “Huh? I thought people weren’t supposed to sit there…”. When he had a good look, he apparently realized that white customers were being told to sit near the entrance, while Asians were indeed being told to sit at the back of the restaurant.

Even when the seats at the back of the restaurant were all occupied, Asians were being told that there were not allowed to sit in the other seats, which prompted GACKT to say: “Do you know what this is? It really is racism, pure and simple”. GACKT left the restaurant once and tried going in again, but once more he was shown to the back of the restaurant, so he asked the member of staff, smiling: “Why? Please explain to me simply […] In a loud voice, give me a simple explanation”. He was shocked at the blatantly racism, “I guess he gave up, and went back over to where he had been, and for some reason the other members of staff were looking and me as they talked. Ahahahahaha. Guess there’s still racism about”.

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I saw some foreigners saying on TV that “It’s a really bad idea to make enemies of Japanese tourists. If you do, they don’t say anything, they go back to Japan and spread bad rumors about that country and its restaurants online and by word of mouth”. Now, Mr. GACKT, what might this restaurant be called?

All this in spite of the fact that they watch Japanese anime and read manga. How convenient.

Someone I know was called a “yellow monkey” by some people where he was in France during a school trip, but when he called them “white pig” back, apparently they were really frantic, and all like “Me! Me!?”.

Maybe it’s because they want to maintain a certain image…but even in Japan there are places that are pretty blatant when it comes to restaurant seating…places that tell you with a smile “sit wherever you want” — perhaps it’s just me — but they always have the best food.

It’s the other way round. It’s just that in Japan, there is so little racism when compared with the rest of the world.

A French restaurant…I see..cos I glanced once and thought, wow, GACKT has gone to a specialist Buddhist store. [NB: the Chinese character used for “France” is the character for “Buddha”].

I mean, those French look down on yellow peoples. They look down on black people too.

I haven’t seen the blog entry, but I think it’s best for GACKT do the “decent thing” and expose the name of the hotel.

They were racist to Sir GACKT! I hope all these places go bust.

But isn’t France known for being a racist country? There’s not much we can do about it (´・ω・)

Still, I’m glad I was born Japanese, and I’m proud to be Japanese (・∀・)…no matter what anyone says o(^_-)O

I had the same experience. The seat they showed me to was right in the back of the hotel and close to the toilet. When I complained they showed me to a brighter seat (not a window seat though). It was unabashed racism. I learned that when abroad, unless you insist on things you get zip.

And even among white people, those idiots who are always competing with each other in their undying belief that they are no. 1, the French are the top class of idiot.

I’ve experienced the same type of racism in Europe. I won’t go there now unless it’s for work.

They were doing stuff like that on French TV, too. Even though they were all French people, the rich ones would be taken to the good seats in the restaurant, and the ones who looked not so rich were shown to seats where they view wasn’t so good. My initial impression was that in France, they would hide the Asians in the back. Of course, that doesn’t make me feel very good.

I’ve heard that this stuff happens in France all the time. French people have always thought that they are “ze sexiest”, and a lot of people are self-important. In fact, a French guy I know treats everyone other than French people as beneath him.

The things France lacks: liberty, equality, fraternity.

With one thing and another, there really is no nation on earth more splendid than Japan.

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  • Guest

    Maybe the “white people” were regulars or had reservations… Gackt and the French are equally poor at English.

    • Guest’s Guest

      Well said Guest. As we all know people who speak poor English deserve no consideration.

      • Guest’s Guest’s Guest

        I meant that Gackt had a difficult time asking, they had a difficult time understanding his question, they had a difficult time answering his question and Gackt had a difficult time understanding the answer.

        • Yaminah Jamison

          Well, i think Gackt can hold an English conversation and probably even know some French. He’s Gackt.

          • Cysorzowa

            I’m afraid it doesn’t matter anyway. While in Paris I had a strong impression that people there really dislike English. That seemed to be especially true for clerks, waiters and the likes as they were visibly annoyed with English speaking clients. It’s hard to say something about Parisiens’ racism though. But my stay there was rather short. Not to speak that I’m caucasian myself, so maybe I was unable to notice it properly.

          • Yaminah Jamison

            I have that feeling too but i still personally think Gackt could hold a conversation in French. He teaches himself new things all the time so i think language was less of an issue.

          • Jimbo

            Uhh, Gackt’s English is quite garbled. Good for a Japanese person perhaps, but shoddy internationally. I see you’re a Gackt fangirl, so there’s no point convincing you otherwise…

            Also funny to me how one of the oldest comments and the most likely explanation is all the way down here.

          • Boris

            The French think that if you visit their country, you should speak their language. No matter how short you are visiting or if you will only visit once. That is what I have been told by another French dude.

            I’ve been to Paris once, Lille Once and drove through France once. The nice people I met where those working at Disneyland (who were not rude, very helpful and smiled a lot), a Chinese husband and wife immigrant working at a shop and some coloured French folks who tried their best to give us directions with broken English when everyone else ignored us (not even a ‘Sorry, I don’t speak English’ in French, just blank us like we were not there). People at Calais were quite nice too. Though I guess there they get a lot of Brits coming over for cheap fags and booze.

            Oh, the two coppers who pulled me and my friend over because he drove on the wrong side of the road. They were ok.

    • Liberal Arts Major

      Maybe the reputation of the mainland Chinese and their antics is now wearing on the French and all Asian people have to carry the brunt of this discrimination. I find the French don’t exercise political correctness like the Scandinavians or North Americans.

      • jgs

        That doesn’t justify anything. It’s still racism.

  • afrenchguy

    There are racists people in France (more and more unfortunately). However this event couldn’t possibly reflect a common practice of French restaurants.

  • Jerem

    Well. I’m Asian living in France and I do recognize there is racism in France that people will never admit. It’s unfortunately the paradox of this country where we do give lessons to others without looking to our mirror first.

    For Gackt, I’m not sure if it’s racism or mockery regarding his style which could be unusual for some closed-minded French… They’re used to Asian – even the worst Chinese tourists that they do bear with it very well…

  • This is funny

    “With one thing and another, there really is no nation on earth more splendid than Japan.”

    Oh puleesseee..

    But of course, there’s no racism in Japan. That’s what majority of Japanese believe.

    When was the last time Japanese discussed racism in Japan? Of course, never.

    What hypocrites!

    • Guest

      That still doesn’t change the fact the French as a group is among the most racist groups.

      • Balkan

        If there is racism in Japan, does that justify racism in France? I think the restaurant should be name and shamed. Racism is horrible, wherever it is. I have many Japanese friends who are not racists and I don’t see why they would have to suffer from it.

        • namepen

          Being seated at the back of a restaurant could have been done for a number of reasons and maybe the White customers were regulars. There is nothing in his account that definitively identifies this as racist.

          What is definitively racist is grouping the whole of France together for the possibly racist actions of one restaurant. I got turned away from clubs and goshiwons in Korea because I am a foreigner and at no time did I think to condemn the entire Korean people as racist.

          Maybe the entitled singer needs to relax and stop playing the victim because for one day he wasn’t treated like a king.

          • Comebackkid13

            BOOM! HEADSHOT!

          • Boris

            Not really a headshot. The reasons for the restaurant doing what it did is up in the air. We can only guess.

            It could be racism, it could be something else. The singer saw that the ‘White’ customers were not asked to move, but the ‘Asians’ were. People going to make up their own mind about that. What were the reasons? The staff could not explain to him (communication problem?), so there may be a reason, we do not know what it is.

          • Comebackkid13

            I agree, thus, the headshot comment. Don’t know the reasons.

          • Boris

            I just think a head-shot would be knowing the reasons. As it it kills (wins) the argument (in one view or the other). This way, things are still up to people’s own interpretation of the events.

            And this is a stupid thing to talk about so, I’ll leave it here. (Yeah, killing some time)

          • cantonizi

            Yulp it is not racist in France, they do that to ALL Asians, even to the Chinese but more openly.
            When Chinese pay cash for big item stuffs like over $$$$$$$$20,000.00USD they will send them out the door or send them to the back to buy the cheaper stuffs.

          • David

            The first time I went to Japan, in 1985, a group of us tried to go to some nightclubs in Tokyo (sorry, it has been thirty years so I do not remember what district). When we tried to enter, the bouncers told us these clubs were only for Japanese men. This was the case for every club on the entire street full of clubs, maybe 20. Does that mean that for the rest of my life I should condemn all Japanese people? Yes, what the restaurant did looks bad. Perhaps instead of being quiet and making assumptions, he should have confronted the situation better. After all, he is supposed to be a superstar.

      • namepen

        France, like most of western Europe, has had to deal with their population transforming from a largely homogenous one to a multiracial and multicultural one in the space of a generation.

        They have done remarkably well in comparison to countries like the US and India that have been mixed for far longer yet still experience major issues.

        Japan would be the most racist place on earth if they had to accept 10% of their population coming in from North Africa within the space of a generation. Look at how much they freak out about a tiny proportion of the population being Chinese or Korean.

        • Asa kaye

          Have you gone to the us or India or getting your news for fox or cnn, msnbcs? I guarantee you despite what you hear on the news us is 100 times more race friendly than France. I have lived as a minority immigrant for decades and have not had one incident yet..whereas in my trips to France it was apparent…Europe is decades behind America…India has problems but it’s not race related, which is a minority considering its incredible diversity in languages, religions, castes etc..

          • namepen

            The US has been multiracial for centuries and India has been multiethnic for millenia.

            France has been multiracial/Cultural for only a few decades.

            Also in the US and other settler societies racism has been institutionalized and was the foundation upon which the country was built. For example the one drop rule in the US or the attempts to culturally assimilate the indigenous peoples of Australia and Canada.

            The racism that exists in places like France and Korea comes about because they are both countries with little to no history of large numbers of people from different racial and cultural backgrounds moving over in a relatively short span of time.

            There is no constitutional or institutional discrimination, merely a period of time needed for the country to catch up and reflect the current demographic reality.

          • G

            I think it’s silly to try to compare racism and prejudices from one country/culture to another. All countries have issues with this. It’s not a competition. I’m not sure how it would even be measured quantitatively. However, countries with imperial histories definitely have institutionalized prejudices against the countries they colonized. That’s part of Japan’s issue with Koreans and France’s issue with North Africans. Of course it doesn’t manifest itself the same way institutionalized prejudice against indigenous people in settler colonialist countries does, but it’s silly to say it doesn’t exist at all. There’s a reason that the U.K. has more slurs for Indians and South Asians than the U.S. does, and it isn’t because the U.S. is more tolerant. Different countries, different issues, not a competition.

          • David

            The France you describe has never actually existed. It has been almost as much of a cross roads for people moving around as Germany. The surface appearance of a homogenous society is simply that, a superficial appearance. In addition to its own home grown minorities, France has had large groups of people moving through it for thousands of years, including Celts, Franks, Gauls, the Anglo-Saxons and then the English (centuries of warfare resulting in many mixed generations. In a more recent time frame the 150 years from the Napoleonic wars,through two world wars.

          • Probotector

            “The surface appearance of a homogenous (sic) society is simply that, a superficial appearance.”

            But isn’t that what most racism is based on?

            To that end, the migration of ‘Celts, Franks, Gauls, the Anglo-Saxons and then the English (Anglo-Saxons and English the same people btw)’ would not be as worrying or even noticeable an ethnic mix up compared with today’s mass immigration of people who are very different in appearance/cultural beliefs & behaviour/language than those you mentioned.

          • Probotector

            Is that why EU countries have anti discrimination laws that punish racism with prison time, whereas in the US, racism is protected by the 1st amendment. So behind indeed.

          • Asa kaye

            What eu countries? Germany or Spain or Sweden? Eu is a lose construct, so let’s not get carried away by one region representing a continent. As far as speech is concerned, I rate the liberty therof higher than fearing racists…overall we are not as divided by class, religion, race in the USA compared to Europe …

          • Probotector

            There are 28 member states in the EU comprising most of the continent; somewhat more than “Germany or Spain or Sweden” and hardly a lose construct, with close economic integration, free movement of all citizens and laws that apply to all members and are passed in its own legislature, and a single currency for most of them. What are you even talking about, it’s not the EEC 1950s anymore.

    • Guest

      There’s no doubt there’s racism in Japan but how you can know what the majority of Japanese people believe?

    • Guest

      “It’s the other way round. It’s just that in Japan, there is so little racism when compared with the rest of the world.”
      ^this was funny. How detached from reality can you be…

  • ineverwantedto

    Uhm…this translation(?) is pretty conflicting with the article that I read on Japanese Yahoo news. There it says, that after he re-entered and sat down at a “good” table, he was asked to go to the back seats. However, after asking twice for a simple and convincing reason the waiter(!) left. Not Gackt.
    Yahoo news also didn’t fail to mention Gackt’s remark about existing misbehavior from Chinese travel parties and Japanese travelers.

    Why is that left out? I found it rather significant.

    • besudesu

      I’m not sure which article you read on Yahoo! Japan, but this Yahoo! Japan article says exactly the same thing as the mixi one translated here. The mixi one doesn’t mention the part about the Chinese tourists though. In fact the Yahoo! Japan article is much more clearly written than the mixi one.

      I should also add that the last part of the translation was a bit unclear — I translated it as “sent” to the back for the restaurant, but GACKT didn’t actually go there — the staff tried to show him to the seat, but gave up.

  • Liberal Arts Major

    I’ve heard French people describe black people not as black people but what variant of colour they are. Mocha, caramel to deep chocolate. “She’s caramel!” It’s startling to hear that sort of thing but that’s France.

    Also, get to know the French and they and you get to know how they really feel about the Muslim population. It’s not uncommon to hear your acquaintances to say, “They’re ruining this country!!” That expression gets tossed around a lot.

    • Comebackkid13

      “I’ve heard French people describe black people not as black people but what variant of colour they are. Mocha, caramel to deep chocolate. “She’s caramel!” It’s startling to hear that sort of thing but that’s France.”

      Why is that startling…?

      • Gordon Gogodancer

        Oh you’ve “heard” have you? Mocha, caramel, deep chocolate? Any tiramisu with that? Are you sure that wasn’t a 5 year old talking? And in that 5 year old’s defense, him making a differentiation between different tone of colours kinda shows that he is less narrow minded than someone just saying “black”. He, at least, understands that not all blacks are the same.
        Sometimes you have to think a bit about how absurd things sound before saying them sir.
        EDIT: message intended to LAM

        • Comebackkid13

          Thank you for edit note because I was confused.

    • Joe

      I’m from the states and we sometimes call half white half black girls “caramel”. It’s not being offensive, rather admiring their beautiful skin tone, not to mention caramel is delicious. They don’t mind haha.

    • Insomnicide

      Muslim isn’t a race…

      • Probotector

        He never said, it was to be fair, just pointing out what he thinks French prejudices are.

    • Probotector

      “They’re ruining this country!!” Understandable after charlie hebdo. Many would agree that Islam is ruining a lot of the world.

  • FYIADragoon

    What I’m suspecting is that they think the likelihood of an Asian tourist being Chinese is too high and they therefore sit them in the back because of their legendary behavior. Not everyone can distinguish the two, unfortunately…

    • Xia

      ^That’s racism squared.

      • David

        No, it is prejudice, not racism. They are being assumed to be bad customers because the staff think they are Chinese (who DO have a terrible reputation as tourists). Racism is when you treat a certain race (i.e. you know who they are) a certain way because of who they are. Such as hating all Japanese people because of what the imperial soldiers did during WW II.

        • Xia

          That’s technically right. But it looks like the rightwing Japanese perceive themselves as “one nation, one civilization, one language, one culture and one race.” (quoting Taro Aso) ‘Racism’ between Asian peoples has historically always been based on ethnicity rather than skin color. Call it ‘ethnicism’ if you like, but it’s essentially the same thing.

        • Chris


        • Insomnicide

          I’m not sure how if he was Chinese that would be any less racist?

        • Eidolon

          Racism is a form of prejudice that aligns with racial categories, as opposed to national/cultural ones, which is what both of your examples are. It was specifically known as an Euro-American prejudice because Euro-Americans formalized the concept of biological race.

          This example of French prejudice is, in fact, racism insofar as Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans are all treated as belonging to the same racial category – ie “yellow”, “Mongoloid,” “Orientals”, etc. It’s indeed racist to generalize in that fashion, and to discriminate based on it. But in case the restaurant only discriminates against Chinese, but not Japanese, on the basis that Chinese nationals behave badly due to their lower cultural training, then that’s a case of national prejudice, not racial prejudice.

          • Probotector

            So you’re basically saying white people invented racism and that its somehow wrong to catagorise people who look racially similar under a unified name? I guess the terms gaijin and laowai are totally unprejudiced terms. Also, are you saying that Japanese, or other East Asians, or even any race or people elsewhere in the world have not ever believed themselves to be racially superior?

            Your last sentence makes sense, but you need to check your own prejudice, and the facts.

    • Nat

      Yes, how unfortunate. Poor racists.

      “Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realise you were Japanese. When I said, ‘chink,’ I meant only Chinese.”

      • guest

        “The correct term for you is jap. Now please move to the back”

  • Anonymous

    “It’s the other way round. It’s just that in Japan, there is so little racism when compared with the rest of the world.”

    Gave me a chuckle.

  • Mahmet Tokarev (Tajik Pride)

    I love France–even as a disgusting, not-quite-white American tourist, I loved my time there.

    Having said that, the French absolutely do discriminate in customer service, pretty much constantly. It’s not so much about race, IMO. In much of Paris, the businesses want wealthy, native-born white French customers, ideally attractive and native Parisian, not tourists. The further you are from being this ideal customer, the worse you will be treated.

    As an American, I was shocked by how rude Parisians are. Part of it is that they don’t have tipping culture there, so the wait staff treat you like an annoyance rather than fawning over you as I’m used to. But a lot of it is that Paris is one of the most popular tourism destinations in the world, so the locals are understandably annoyed by the hordes of tourists who swarm everywhere.

    Also, I have to admit I laughed at the Japanese talking about how non-racist the Japanese are. Japan is one of the least diverse countries in the world, and they still manage to be pretty damn racist against their tiny minority groups (koreans/Ainu, etc.)

    • Max in Tokyo

      I am French and I can’t agree more with you regarding the crappy customer service we have! France is one of the most visited countries in the world, and most employees of hotel/restaurants are rude, even towards the French! That’s really shameful…

      • Boris

        Staff at Disneyland Paris were nice. Those that actually worked for Disney. Staff at, say, McDs were not. Also, worse McDs are in Paris. It is like the French despise McDs so much they intentionally make the food worse than it already is.

      • Probotector

        Europe generally has shitty service, except the UK, so PC.

  • jeupsy

    Once they are done calling the French racist based on one specific example which could be a misunderstanding (maybe the hotel had a group of Asian tourist and was trying to keep them together) … does anyone think they will reflect on themselves and wonder whether it wasn’t a bit racist to curse a whole country because one particular pop star was not happy with the way he was treated in one particular hotel?

    • ChuckRamone

      sorry, but things like this happen and all the weird explanations people come up with are BS. this was a racist incident. just like this one:

      • jeupsy

        Where you there? Have you heard the version of the restaurant to get the other side of the story? Have you seen a video/audio recording to make your own judgement and make sure it is not just a pop star expecting special service and making things up when they aren’t happy they didn’t get it?
        On my side I think there is no element to make a judgement one way or the other.

        But aside from this, my comment was mostly about how the event is beeing reported and many netizens are commenting on it: “those French look down on yellow peoples”, “isn’t France known for being a racist country”, “abroad, unless you insist on things you get zip”, “Asian tourist being Chinese is too high and they therefore sit them in the back because of their legendary behavior”, “I’ve heard that this stuff happens in France all the time”, “even among white people, those idiots who are always competing with each other in their undying belief that they are no. 1, the French are the top class of idiot”.

        Couldn’t these generalisations about the French, Chinese, white people and foreigners in general all be called racist? (and I insist, all it took to trigger them is a pop star making a claim of a racist even in one particular occasion and not providing any evidence)

  • annupri

    Don`t worry. you all are the most racists here in this racist forum

  • Yolanee

    How long has Gackt been 41?

    • Yaminah Jamison

      About 20 years now.

  • neo

    Japanese people need to stop this interracial marriage crap and stop fantasizing about half gaijin babies , sleazy ugly white men etc. They need to realise their country is getting weaker & weaker and less influential day by day as they accommodate foreign influence. WAKE UP JAPAN! BE MORE PATRIOTIC & COURAGEOUS LIKE KOREA!

    • wrle

      South Korea is more accepting of globalization and this “foreign influence” you talk about than their Japanese counterparts, that’s for sure and so is most of the developed world. Being weak has nothing to do with it.

    • Steven


      signed, written from Korea.

      ps. hahaha snicker snicker patriotic hahaha
      Korea accepting foreign influence, or being forced to accomadate? haha
      nice humor todays.

    • guest

      International marriage rate of both japanese man and woman is not increasing in the first place.

  • commander

    What needs to be clarified here is that whether the clerk’s request for him to move further inside is racially motivated or whether the quest was made largely because those who patronize the restaurant dislike Asians sitting at quite a visible table to attract attention of others.

    Distinction may be trickey, and this is not as simple as it looks initially.

    If the first is the case, the restaurant think that even if some Asians will not make a second visit at the offensive treatment, they can make enough money. If Asians make up the majority of customers for the restaurant, they can’t make such a treatment for visiting diners of Asian descent.

    On the other hand, if the restaurant is forced to give the unpleasant treatment because their primary customer base consists of whites who are unwilling to mingle with Asians, it means this is not a simple matter dismissable as the isolated problem of the dining place. It could be part of broader racial biases that are possible widespread there.

  • Singh

    Now that Japanese experienced the shock of racism for the first time, maybe then they may start to understand the racism that Japanese themselves show to other Asians that are considered inferior.

  • Gauban

    How dare the french ****, I would never visit france and I am american. Gackt is an awesome pop star, and actor. Racism what a world we live in.

  • Diceaurora

    Gackt, I know you love french food, but leave there. Come to America. I think you are an awesome and unique person.

  • Yaminah Jamison

    It’s a horrible experience to have and doesn’t matter if you’re famous (even though they wouldn’t know who he is anyway) some people just see one thing and base their whole attitude and logic on it.

  • Max in Tokyo

    I am French and I am really ashamed by the reactions of some of my countrymen. But please, don’t consider all the French as being racists, many people have a very positive opinion about Japanese people. Vive le Japon!

  • vonskippy

    Obviously the guy has never been to France before. French people are oh so very stuck up (maybe it’s the long pole they keep up their butt). Every time we visit France I like to mess with the people and see how long it takes to make them sputter off in their frenchy indignant manner (talk about their dismal army – their fine history of war mongering – their politicians, ok, that works in most places). Of course I have a insider advantage, I married a french women, so I get to practice on the in-laws all the time.

    • fr hy

      at least they weren’t trying to keep him out based on religious laws like Indiana. also google French girls F___ed by japanese guys to see Japanese deal with french racism

      • Jem

        Too bad Japanese d*cks are smaller compared to the French. I’m talking figuratively and empirically.

        • fr hy

          u r right, the Japanese d*cks r nothin compared to what negros do to white french: The 1804 Haiti massacre was a genocide carried out against the remaining white population of French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by the black population on the order of Jean-Jacques DessalinesOn 1 January 1804, Dessalines proclaimed Haiti an independent nation.[13] Dessalines later gave the order to all cities on Haiti that all white men should be put to death.[10White women were “often raped or pushed into forced marriages under threat of death”.[17]

          Dessalines did not specifically mention that the white women should be killed, and the soldiers were reportedly somewhat hesitant to do so As elsewhere, the majority of the women were initially not killed. Dessalines’s advisers, however, pointed out that the white Haitians would not disappear if the women were left to give birth to white men, and after this, Dessalines gave order that the women should be killed as well, with the exception of those who agreed to marry non-white men Only three categories of white people, except foreigners, were selected as exceptions and spared: the Polish soldiers who deserted from the French army; the little group of German colonists invited to North West Haiti before the revolution; and a group of medical doctors and professionals.[9] Reportedly, also people with connections to officers in the Haitian army were spared, as well as the women who agreed to marry non-white men.[18]

    • Rnr2

      Well their army is not that dismal. It`s nothing compared to the US army but so are most armed forces in the world.

  • ChuckRamone
    • Tim Nilsson

      Did you take anything more than a cursory glance at the review title and photos? In the comments section there are criticisms by Asians who’ve dined at the restaurant multiple times and report no instances of racist attitudes towards them. And as noted by a commenter, their executive pastry chef at the time was Asian. The following is the official statement from Oceana addressing the claims of racism:

      “Chubby Chinese Girl” is offended by her seating arrangements, preferring to label the restaurant “RACIST!!!” instead of rectifying the problem herself by asking the staff for a table at her preferred location. The ease and thoughtlessness with which she racebaits, and your willfulness in enabling such behavior by citing it as an example of “similar incidents” of “racism” underscores a more important issue in racial politics than anything else.

      • ChuckRamone

        Since when do pastry chefs have anything to do with the seating in a restaurant? They probably have no idea what the hosts, hostesses, waiters are doing in terms of seating. The restaurant’s denial is far less convincing evidence than her picture.

        • Tim Nilsson

          The restaurant’s employment of Asians in high-ranking positions lend little credence to the blogger’s claims of racist attitudes towards its patrons, as are seating arrangements that could be addressed by asking the staff. This is not hard to understand.

          The picture in question does not even show the entire dining room; do you really feel this to be more convincing that the statistics compiled by Oceana of its patrons? And would you care to comment on the other points I’ve raised?

          • ChuckRamone

            What points? Most of them are purely anecdotal, he said, she said type of things. I could comment on them but my comments would be as useful as they are – purely theoretical and testimonial. “I have people vouching for me” is not really great of evidence of anything except that a person has some buddies. Don’t we all have people who would vouch for us? Also, a restaurant hiring a pastry chef reflects its attitudes about who it’s willing to have make its food, not about how it wants its dining area to be perceived.

          • Tim Nilsson

            The review itself is an anecdote, as it is an account of the blogger’s experience of the restaurant. The difference between it, and the comments I’ve referred to is that the latter is more numerous in number and describes multiple visits over a longer period of time, as opposed to one visit by a presumptuous blogger.

            You have a strange definition of what the words “anecdote” and “points” mean: you are employing flawed reasoning to accuse a business of being racist, based on insufficient evidence that was contradicted by official accounts, as well as those of other patrons. The restaurant notes that on that very day there were patrons of varying races throughout. “Chubby Chinese Girl” made no attempt to ask the staff to be seated else, and was convinced that this in itself amounted to them being “RACIST!!!”. But perhaps her describing that another dining room “looked really white” is enough evidence for you.

          • ChuckRamone

            So you’re basically saying her experience and her anecdote is not as valid as those of the customers vouching for the business. How do you even know who these people are or what they’re saying is any more genuine than what she’s saying? This is more or less a case of taking the side of whomever you want to believe most. It’s not cut and dry. To me, it looks like a parallel to what happened to Gackt. There are those who will give the restaurant the benefit of the doubt and there are those of us who are more skeptical. I guess it’s mostly a matter of perception.

          • Tim Nilsson

            As I’ve said, her particular anecdote is flawed in several points. It has been contradicted by official accounts and other restaurant patrons who’ve dined there multiple times over a longer period of time, which were better articulated and reasoned. Her observation that another dining room “looked really white” was enough evidence to accuse restaurant of racially segregating its patrons. Her only responses to Oceana’s statement were “I say bs!!!” and “*rolling eyes*”. The proof of burden lies with her and she fails to make a reasonable, convincing argument to begin with.
            All you’ve done is made a poor analogue substantiated by flimsy reasoning that fails to make any valid points about racism, and backpedaling as soon as someone calls you out on it.

          • Tim Nilsson

            I meant to write “burden of proof”, not “proof of burden”.

          • ChuckRamone

            I’m not backpedalling. I’m still sticking to my original statement. I’m only saying this is not as cut and dried as you’re presenting it. I’m willing to concede there could be different interpretations. But you act as if you could quantify the legitimacy of one party’s testimony over that of another when you are as distanced of an observer as I am.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Based on the accounts available, her particular experience is the least credible for the reasons I’ve explained in previous posts.

            You described yourself as one of the “more skeptical” people in this situation: the definition, via Google (which uses the Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English as its reference) is “not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations.”. You have in a past comment judged this blogger’s experiences to be an outright “racist incident. just[sic] like this one”. Now you have said “I guess it’s mostly a matter of perception.”. This is textbook backpedaling.

          • ChuckRamone

            I think you’re just someone who likes to niggle about mostly trivial matters, like the definition of skeptical, which is a matter of what side you’re skeptical of. Or the definition of backpedalling, a purely metaphorical expression without a scientifically precise definition. This is all evidence of how you’re unable to see things from other perspectives. You have all the answers. You know everything for certain. People who disagree with you have less valid beliefs or experiences, or less ability to reason. Why? Because you are the center around which all else revolves.

          • Tim Nilsson

            You asked me how you were backpedalling. I obliged – You quite clearly labelled this a “racist incident. just[sic] like this one”, but now claim there be more sides to the matter and that “I guess it’s mostly a matter of perception.”. Your response is to accuse me of being pedantic and focusing on semantics; I would not have to do the latter if you hadn’t demonstrated on multiple instances of not understanding the words you’re using. It changes the meaning of each sentence you type and the arguments you’re making. I would hardly call that “[niggling] about mostly trivial matters”.

            And while you’re busy making personal attacks, when have I outright made a judgement on who the correct person is in either incident? If anything, I’m the skeptic here by questioning the testimony of “Chubby Chinese Girl” by noting the flaws in her reasoning and the contradictions by multiple accounts.

          • ChuckRamone

            Backpedal means to walk backwards. Figuratively I suppose it would mean I retreated or retracted. But I didn’t do either of those things. Admitting that a situation could be viewed in another way that you personally disagree with is not backpedaling, the way I see it. And once again, I’m skeptical too. I’m skeptical of the restaurant’s statement of denial and that its workers were sending all its Asian customers to a separate room to be seated away from the main dining area. That’s really not that far fetched. I also have no doubt the restaurant denied it and made statements along the lines of “I have Asian friends” or “Asian people work here.”

          • Tim Nilsson

            That’s the literal definition of backpedalling. You were clearly referring to its definition as a metaphorical expression, as you yourself described it as and which, I’ve explained, applies to your past actions. You outright made judgements with little room for doubt: a “racist incident. just[sic] like this one”, then later make the concession that perhaps there are different perspectives on the matter.

            Do you not know how the term “backpedalling” as it’s used to describe comments made by people, e.g. by The New York Times to criticize Benjamin Netanyahu during last month’s elections in Israel?

            And how can you even be “skeptical” of the restaurant’s statement if you haven’t read it? Nowhere does it contain anything close to “I have Asian friends”. Not even considering the opposing side’s arguments and evidence is ignorance, rather than skepticism. You say it’s “really not that far fetched” to assume they’re racially segregating patrons but willfully ignore their statement and fail to come up with anything convincing, preferring to instead insist that this is indeed the case.

          • ChuckRamone

            I said, “Figuratively I suppose it would mean I retreated or retracted.” In the first sentence I’m talking about its literal meaning. Its extended/metaphorical meaning is pretty open to debate. I’m not aware of any source that has defined it precisely and even then it would require a judgement call because we’re talking about debating and rhetoric, not hard science.

            When I was summing up the restaurant’s statement as “I have Asian friends,” I was just being sarcastic. Because that’s the tone of it, which is a very typical defense of oneself in incidents like this. I still don’t think you’ve proven anything definitively but you’re acting like this is some kind of open and shut case that went to trial.

          • Tim Nilsson

            The definition of “backpedal” as a metaphorical expression is not “pretty open to debate” in its definition. The MacMillan and Cambridge dictionaries, for example, have defined it reasonably clearly:



            In “hard” sciences there still exist concepts, results and scientific theories open to debate ; The act of quantifying something does not make it inherently easier to make value judgments, nor does it exclude social sciences and the arts from making them.

            Your supposed sarcasm fails to make a point. It does not say anything truthful or accurate about the actual statement, and is as a result not a valid critique. Faced with accusations of racism, it’s reasonable for a restaurant to cite its culturally diverse workforce and patrons, which contradict claims of the blogger’s attitudes towards Asians. At what point have I acted “like this is some kind of open and shut case that went to trial”? All I’ve done is dispute the validity of “Chubby China Girl”s testimony. I have not done anything close to, say, criticizing it as “racist incident”.

          • ChuckRamone

            Your source says to backpedal is “to change an opinion that you had expressed before, or do something different from what you had said you would do.” I didn’t change my opinion, which is all it is, an opinion, just like yours. Neither of us has any definitive evidence that one side is more right than the other, just notions or hunches. It’s okay to disagree. My sarcasm about the restaurant’s letter of denial doesn’t fail to make a point any more than their letter succeeds in making a point. It’s all pretty subjective and a matter of opinion. And it will probably never exceed that because it’s pretty hard to prove who’s right here. We can only go on what we THINK is the case, which will be based on our experiences, our hunches, our beliefs. Obviously, ours are very different.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Your view of the blogger’s experiences as a “racist incident” is a conclusive judgement and requires the acceptance of her testimony to be the most valid one, which is contradicted by other accounts. If you then say there are other ways of looking at it, that requires the acknowledgement of other accounts to be valid as well. You declared someone to be right then later said both sides make valid points.

            Their letter cites empirical evidence that contradicts claims of racist attitudes towards people of a certain race. Your sarcasm, as I’ve said, does not say anything truthful or accurate about the actual statement. Subjectivity is not a crutch with which you can claim there to be no valid or meaningful conclusions to be made about something.

          • ChuckRamone

            Looking back at my comments, I don’t I’ve once used the phrase “racist incident.” But you do like to put words in my mouth. You’re one of those people who gets all indignant when you think someone is being too PC or liberal or whatever, I’d imagine. All I did was link to an incident that looked similar. I did not use the word “racist.” It’s in the realm of possibility that we had workers at these restaurants who were segregating their Asian customers away from the main dining area. Things like that happen. People are shitheads. But obviously you have some righteous indignation about these issues, as if there aren’t everyday incidents of bias, as if these things never happen. But in places like restaurants, the workers are very capable of doing things like that. They are in a position to give preferential or lesser service without declaring to the world that’s what is happening. And no one can prove otherwise.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Not once have I put words in your mouth. In your reply to “jeupsy” you made the following comment:

            “sorry, but things like this happen and all the weird explanations people come up with are BS. this was a racist incident. just like this one:


            This is the permalink to the comment:


            You did not address me specifically but cited the same “racist incident” in question. It’s been barely 24 hours and you’ve forgotten what you’ve said on this subject? And again you resort to personal attacks and claims without any substance or merit. Despite this, you see fit to declare such practices commonplace in restaurants and exercised by staff with impunity, despite the illegality of racially discriminatory service in restaurants due to the anti-discrimination laws in America. The burden of proof lies with you yet to claim – erroneously – that “no one can prove otherwise”. I suppose witness testimony, circumstantial and direct evidence don’t exist.

          • ChuckRamone

            None of this has been tried in a court. None of the evidence is “empirical” either. Of course the restaurant owners are going to deny it. For all we know, it could have been happening without their knowledge. Have you ever worked in a restaurant? I have. Restaurant workers are not all choir boys and they can get away with doing things because these things can’t be proven definitively. That’s life. And in spite of anti-discriminatory laws, these things will still happen because it’s not like a legal case will be made for all the crap that people do to each other.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Via Google, “Empirical evidence (also empirical data, sense experience, empirical knowledge, or the a posteriori) is a source of knowledge acquired by means of observation or experimentation”.

            For example, the statistic quoted by Oceana of their patrons’ racial makeup on a given day (49%) comes from their observation of all people who dined there.

            Again, with the available evidence, logic and reasoning meaningful judgements can be made. Appealing to ignorance is not sufficient grounds for accusing a business of racial discrimination, but a logical fallacy. Nevertheless, you somehow manage to label both as a “racist incident”.

          • ChuckRamone

            Racial makeup of diners – how did they determine that? Are they taking demographic surveys? Basing it on names on receipts? What about people who paid in cash? Also, this doesn’t indicate how people were seated. People could have been dining there without any knowledge that workers like to put all the Asian customers in a separate room. Her photo could also be considered empirical evidence. But of course you’ve found a reason to dismiss it. I suppose Gackt was also imagining it. These are all cases of overly sensitive Asians who misinterpreted things. Because people are fundamentally good and we could just chalk it all up to silly misunderstandings. I guess you have more faith in humanity than I do. Personally, I don’t view human actions as good or bad but just the behavior of our species of animal. And I don’t doubt at all that these things could have happened because humans are animals.

          • Tim Nilsson

            A person’s race is a demographic. A survey is “a general view, examination, or description of someone or something”. Do you not know what the term means? Receipt names do not always contain every patron at a table. The payment option they choose does not change their race.
            Her photo, in the context of accusing a business of racial discrimination is not nearly sufficient; it does not even contain a view of the entire dining room. The burden of proof is on her to provide reasonable grounds for making claims of racial bias, and it is on yours as well, as the person describing it as a “racist incident”.

            You accuse me of putting words in my mouth and right after that make the following post:

            “I suppose Gackt was also imagining it. These are all cases of overly sensitive Asians who misinterpreted things. Because people are fundamentally good and we could just chalk it all up to silly”

            Strange then, as I’ve quoted the very instance you’ve used the term “racist incident” and you’ve fallen silent on that front.

          • ChuckRamone

            A survey is also when you ask people questions to gather information.
            What I want to know is how did this restaurant determine the racial
            makeup of its customers? I think this is the first time I’ve heard of a
            restaurant gathering information like that. If true, it’s kinda weird,
            actually. The bulk of your comments are just quibbles about semantics. And then you keep repeating stuff that pertains to like law courts. I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but you and I are not having a formal academic discussion or a scientific debate, and the events we are talking about do not require forensic evidence, scientific data, or legalese. We’re just discussing two different interpretations of events. None of these have been litigated as crimes or court cases. I’m more cynical than you, and my first thought reading these articles was, “Yeah, sounds pretty plausible. People suck and I don’t doubt these things happened.” And you’re saying these people are misinterpreting things and they need to prove themselves. Do you require everyone who calls someone a racist or an asshole to hand over evidence and data and whatever else? That’s pretty rigorous.

          • Tim Nilsson

            That’s a questionnaire, which is one of the data collection methods for surveys. If you actually read the statement, like you’ve claimed to do, you would be aware that “[t]hese were not pre-compiled statistics, but rather done in support of my comments made to a journalist from Midtown Lunch”. Following the relevant link to Mid Town Lunch would also lead you to how he collected the information. I question if you’ve actually read the statement published by Oceana.

            Conducting demographic research at restaurants, particularly chains is not an uncommon practice. It provides information for companies on how popular their restaurants are with their target demographic, among other things. Here’s an example:

            I have to explain the meaning of every other term as you seem to be unaware of their meaning, from “backpedalling” and “skeptical” to “demographic”. Your insistence on using them despite this changes the meaning of each post you make. Like before, I’ve already addressed how these are not ” quibbles about semantics”.

            And in what part of my posts do I “keep repeating stuff that pertains to like law courts”, such as “forensic evidence, scientific data, or legalese”? Where have I used a legal concept or quoted a precedent? The burden of proof is not only used in a legal context. I don’t think you’ve ever had a “formal academic discussion or a scientific debate” if you think they resemble what we’re doing right now. For one, participants would be expected to know the meaning of words they’re using.

            You fail to bring up exact instances of me supposedly doing these things and resort to vague criticisms and scare quotes that don’t hold water. “Chubby China Girl” needs to prove herself that it was as you’ve eloquently put it, a “racist incident”. You’re expected to at least give a reasonable explanation of how it was a “racist incident”, as the person describing it as such. If you’re going to casually racebait from a position of ignorance don’t expect people to just take it in stride.

          • ChuckRamone

            “Survey – a sampling, or partial collection, of facts, figures, or opinions taken and used to approximate or indicate what a complete collection and
            analysis might reveal.” I don’t have to use your particular choice of word – questionnaire – when the word “survey” will suffice. We already went over backpedal and I used it in a perfectly acceptable way, because I never backpedaled about anything. Let’s see, your next quibble was about “demographic.” Here’s a definition: “a market or segment of the population identified by demographics.” Words have more than one meaning, and other people do not have to use them the way you prefer.

            Do you always spend so much time nitpicking? No wonder you sound so miserable.The world is not shaped to your desires. Everything is not black and white. Shit happens every day that goes unrecorded or unaddressed. People treat each other badly all the time and there isn’t a court case for every instance of it. They might rant online or grumble to their friends about it, but that’s all that comes of it. If you expect exact accounting of every human event, you’re not going to get it. In that world, nothing really happens except for what was recorded, assessed and rendered a verdict. In which case, you’re perfectly right. These people were not put in segregated seating on those days at those restaurants. But real life is messier than that. No one is going to be able to prove to you that all of their dealings with assholes actually occurred because you demand too much. You’re willing to give the restaurants the benefit of the doubt, try it the other way too. Neither you nor I have proven or disproven anything about these incidents because we’re discussing verbal accounts and not videotaped or otherwise officially recorded events. The restaurant’s statement is not enlightening in the least, no matter what it contains. Or else, you have to give at least as much credence to what the bloggers said.

          • Tim Nilsson

            I never asked you to use the word “questionnaire” instead of “survey”; I merely pointed out that it is a type of survey, and is not the only data collection method for conducting one. That you described a survey as “also when you ask people questions to gather information” suggests you view the two as being mutually inclusive, i.e. it must be used to conduct surveys.

            Secondly, I already gave you a comprehensive explanation of how you were backpedalling with two quoted statements that indicated different positions on this subject. And the definition you quoted for “demographic” doesn’t contradict anything I’ve said. It was not a case of me supposedly forcing people to use a word the way I prefer them to if you don’t know what it meant in the first place. Examples of demographic variables are age, gender, race and income level. Therefore, the research conducted by the co-owners falls within the definition of a demographic survey. You were questioning his methodology from the outset, using words you don’t understand and upon being corrected complain that these are just “quibbles about semantics”.

            As for your accusation that I “sound so miserable”, that’s pretty strange coming from someone who’s made the following comments based on pure conjecture:

            “You’re one of those people who gets all indignant when you think someone is being too PC or liberal or whatever, I’d imagine”

            “But obviously you have some righteous indignation about these issues, as if there aren’t everyday incidents of bias, as if these things never happen”

            “I suppose Gackt was also imagining it. These are all cases of overly sensitive Asians who misinterpreted things. Because people are fundamentally good and we could just chalk it all up to silly”

            “I think you’re just someone who likes to niggle about mostly trivial matters, like the definition of skeptical, which is a matter of what side you’re skeptical of. Or the definition of backpedalling, a purely metaphorical expression without a scientifically precise definition. This is all evidence of how you’re unable to see things from other perspectives. You have all the answers. You know everything for certain. People who disagree with you have less valid beliefs or experiences, or less ability to reason. Why? Because you are the center around which all else revolves.”

            I would like to see you quote any comment of mine that comes close to sounding as “miserable”.

            At no point have my posts suggests either incident to be “black and white”. Note that I have not done anything close to, say, labelling them a “racist incident”, or that “all the weird explanations people come up with are BS”. You’ve been much more “black and white” than I have.

            And again, you make an appeal to ignorance to say that anything can happen, and that nothing can be evaluated on their respective merits because there is no such thing as absolute certainty. I have already explained why this is fallacious multiple times. What chain of reasoning have you used to make such statements? You fail to give explanations to any of the claims you make beyond the existence of uncertainty but feel it is sufficient to make numerous ad hominems, that this was a “racist incident” and “all the weird explanations people come up with are BS”. Why should I, for example, “have to give at least as much credence to what the bloggers[sic] said” if you don’t know what the restuarant’s response even was? You ignore the available evidence and then claim we can’t be sure of anything.

          • ChuckRamone

            You didn’t say what you said. You didn’t mean what you meant. You didn’t argue what you argued. But I said, meant, and argued whatever you say I did. Nothing anyone says can be proven or has any meaning but everything you say can be proven and has meaning. All you do is try and elude and make appeals to some sort of inherent truth or objectivity that you alone are privy to, and yet you like to equivocate yourself. As for your miserableness — nitpicking, semantic quibbling and things of that nature are often called “peeving.” And someone who is peevish is one who is “feeling or showing irritation.” I hope you hold yourself and all your friends to the same standards you do the people who had bad experiences at these restaurants. If you ever feel you are being mistreated, please provide hard empirical evidence, completely sound and logical reasoning, perfection of word choice, etc. before voicing your complaints, or else it didn’t happen the way you say it did. No one in your world is ever mistreated.

          • Tim Nilsson

            I was going to directly respond but realised there is nothing for me to dignify your post with, and that it has long been past the point at which this discussion has been constructive.

            You fail to grasp the basic principles of proper rhetoric, misusing words and making numerous logical fallacies throughout your posts. Every instance of being comprehensively refuted is ignored, or at best responded to with personal attacks or another variation of the argument. Perhaps you would better understand if I were to tell you outright that it’s a waste of time debating with you.

            If you were to take anything from this, I would urge you to keep in mind that you do not get to make up definitions for the words you use. If other people cite the dictionary in response or point out that you’re using a strawman, they are not being a tyrant. And that it’s quite unwise to make such statements from a position of ignorance:

            “sorry, but things like this happen and all the weird explanations people come up with are BS. this was a racist incident. just like this one:”

          • ChuckRamone

            You’re right. No one will ever match the inherent superiority of logic, rhetoric and morals you’ve ascribed to yourself. You are truly the most holy. There is not a bit of sophistry or niggling or pomposity in anything you’ve said here.

          • Zhegezhege

            What a bore you are.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Incidentally, something being a – not even “purely” – metaphorical expression doesn’t give you license to use it however you want: your actions were in line with the dictionary definition of the term describes. And skepticism being as you’ve described it doesn’t contradict anything I’ve said.

          • Tim Nilsson

            Additionally, “I have people vouching for me” appears in none of the linked articles’ comment sections. This is an especially poor use of scare quotes given how none of the testimony referred to in my post were by those who could be described as being “buddies” with the restaurant management.

  • Aussie D
    • Liberal arts major

      She won!! I don’t care for beauty pageants, they’re antiquated and the sort of things scum bags like Donald Trump value but I thought this would really represent breakthrough for bi-racial children in Japan. Bi-racial kids would see this beautiful woman as a roll model It shows that there’s certain level of acceptance in Japanese society and that they shouldn’t hide from life because they’re afraid of being bullied. I mean, it’s a start.

      I hope this becomes a feature on Japan crush.

      • David

        Did you actually read the article? This is not about how wonderful it is that a mixed racer girl won the pageant. Japanese judges can be just as superficial about looks as anybody. It is about the abuse she took and is still taking in Japan, despite being born there, whenever anybody finds out she is half black. My ex-wife, whose parents are from Japan, was born in the U.S. but when she traveled to Japan, she was called all kinds of bad racial names by almost everybody who found out she was not from Japan.

    • Foreigner

      Japanese are mad because she won. A half black breed, a freak of nature, not real Japanese!

      • Probotector

        “A half black breed, a freak of nature, not real Japanese!”

        Are those your words or words you think Japanese would use to describe her?

  • Boris

    This is the first time I saw a picture of him and he doesn’t look like a chick.

  • 剛彦 剛田

    this is usual white

  • Foreigner

    Japanese restaurant in India says only Japanese are allowed in.

    Funny, but I don’t recall Japanese media printing this, nor the Japanese netizens discussing this topic at all. It’s as if this didn’t even happen for the Japanese. Yet, when they become the victims of racism, it’s the worst that ever happens in the world.

    • Foreigner2

      But a comment that says this is not racism gets agreements the most in the article comment field.

  • fk france man i wish the muslims would burn the country down

    • cantonizi

      And the blacks will turn the country into another South Afrika.

      • Raybandsz

        Holy shit you’re stupid, you do know that South Africa was alright before those White people came.

      • niga jael jal na ga

        Are you a dunce?

    • Probotector

      Wait for Putin to do it.

  • pko

    This must be April Fools Joke, when Japanese complain about racism..

  • Comebackkid13

    “Maybe it’s because they want to maintain a certain image…but even in Japan there are places that are pretty blatant when it comes to restaurant seating…places that tell you with a smile “sit wherever you want” — perhaps it’s just me — but they always have the best food.”

    That’s all that needs to be said on this. Every Japanese person knows there a good restaurants in every city that block out foreigners.

  • ForEverRain

    I started a petition for the hotels to publicly apologise after reading this.. Racism. It stops with me. Please sign!

    • guest

      How about starting a petition to end racism in japan first

  • steviewah

    This type of subtle racism not only happens in France, but in Canada too. You don’t really think about it until you’re treated like a second class citizen. It’s more annoying than anything, I found out the best way to resolve it is just confront them. They tend to clam up real fast.

  • Anon

    I doubt it was because of his origin more than his hairstyle

    • cantonizi

      Not his skin color, that card is only for blacks.

  • Small twon

    hummm..He got a point for saying that’s racism.

    I wish racism is thing in the past , at the same time I also recognize racism is reality we have to deal with in real world everyday everywhere. Make a formal complain to restaurant owner and move on. Mr GACKT.

    Plus I personally saw plenty of racism in Japan during my short visit last year.
    Racist groups graffiti against Koreans, proud racist march in the main road and couple of nice Japanese racist gentleman called me some nasty name and also called American guy next me “white pig” – this surprised me because I thought they only hate Koreans.
    I know one racism plus another racism is just two racism however I wanna point out how wrong those comments are.

    • anon

      To be honest, I can’t believe your story. I have lived in Japan for a long time. But I have never seen a scene that japanese people call an American “white pig” in real life. There is a video like that in Youtube but that is an ultraright-wing group, so it is an extremely rare case. You saw it during your short visit? I can’t stop saying your story is very doubtful.

      • Small twon

        There is a video ? wow whoever filmed that video that person is braver than me. Any way it’s your choice to believe it or not. I was near Korea town in Tokyo and I wasn’t only one saw that.

        • anon

          The video was probably filmed by a member of the group. Yeah, it’s my choice not to believe your story. I think that it’s probably just a made-up story or an extreme exaggeration. Internet is full of them and of course here isn’t an exception, either.

  • Okamatsu

    Common… Do you think it is possible for a restaurant to put a certain catergory of customers based on their origin in the back ? Which century he is living in ? I’m french, and i have never seen in my entire life something even close to this type of things. He was put in the back because the best tables were already took by regular customers who called the restaurant a few days before to select their favorite table.

    It is pretty usual to do this in France. And restaurants keep their best tables to customers who called them in order to book a table.

    So if you come in the restaurant and sit down on a booked table, they will tell you to move back. I experimented this type of practice a lot of times, and i’m french.

    Saying a whole country is racist based on the misinterpretation of a single behavior is pretty dawn racist.

    • pooperscooper

      Saying a whole country is racist due to a misinterpretation is not racist.That’s just being ignorant. If he was trying to be racist, he would’ve made a remark implying that French people being inferior to Japanese people

      • Okamatsu

        You are perfectly right pooperscooper, it is not a matter of racism, it is just a kind of ideologic shortcut.

      • Okamatsu

        But behind this ideologic shortcut, you can perfectly imagine that this guy is thinking french people don’t have the social skills / education / empathy to accept, understand, and behave accordingly to the needs of a particular group of persons.

        And that is the problem. This misinterpretation should easily lead to “french people don’t care about foreigners, they are arrogants and condescending, blablabla”.

        Thinking that a whole country is racist is a kind of racism, because you admit unintentionnaly that they have a common lack of comprehension, it is a value judgement which can exist only if you actually make a comparaison between a referent model (his country) and a subject.

        And like every country in the world, you have as many differents behaviors as people who live in.

        But you were totally right about the fact that it can’t be interpreted directly like racism, because i can’t read in his thoughts.

        • pooperscooper

          If that be the case then, at the most, a misinterpretation can lead to racism, but a misinterpretation is not right off the bat racist.

          How about we talk about the problem of people shouting racism, yet don’t have a clue about what it really is. This incident wasn’t racist. it was discrimination (whether racial or class) influenced by stereotype. Racism is a bigger structure revolving around a society, and also economically and politically shaped around a dominant group in power intentionally making it less possible for minorities to have the same advantages or obtain equal oppotunities as them.

  • Ways That Are Dark

    Isn’t racial discrimination on private premises allowed under Japanese law anyway?

    What’s he complaining about?

  • helsic

    wow! it must be shocking for somebody as famous as Gack to be threated like common folk in other country. I’m not surprised, most of people hate Chinese tourists for their behavior, so I guess they assume all Asian tourists will behave like Chinese tourists and in a restaurant having people in the front eating without manners would certainly give a bad impression to other costumers. I hope this is the reason and not just “we think all Asians are inferior” bullshit.

    • Nat

      What kind of stupid bullshit is this?

      Assuming all Asian tourists will behave like Chinese tourists is equally as stupid and contemptible as “we think all Asians are inferior.” As is assuming all Chinese tourists behave in the same way.


    • Probotector

      “It must be shocking for somebody as famous as Gack to be threated (sic) like common folk in other country.”,

      First of all, no one is common, we’re all people. Second, t’s only his opinion that this was racism anyway. There are a number of reasons why they seated him the way they did. Also, there might have been a communication breakdown. You ever seen two people who are poor at English try to converse? Not easy. Third, he’s not that famous. I doubt these people had a clue who he was, nor did they care.

      The whole Chinese thing, I’ll accept, and you shouldn’t be prejudiced, even against the Chinese tourists.

  • Sherese Faulkner

    When I used to live in southern France I’ve never experienced racism being a black european and I speak French also. But there’s racism all over the world no matter what country you visit sad but true.

  • I Hate Hypocrisy

    Japanese court rules that the European foreign student to Japan who was denied housing, was not a violation of human rights. And they’re complaining about some actor in a French restaurant… hypocrites… look at your own back yard, Japan is probably the most racist place on face of this earth, where even denying housing or hair stylists refusing customers due to race is not considered racism nor violation of human rights.

    In Japan, apartheid is perfectly legal, and nobody even bothers to fight for the discriminated. Everything and every organizations that are supposedly there to help protect the discriminated, are there in name only, and they are there to stamp their approval of the ruling government.

    Maybe those French people were discriminated in Japan, and they were giving them the deserved payback.

    • Probotector

      Right, although this is an issue in every mono cultural nation.

  • nineteen85

    If he came into my restaurant looking like that, no better than a punk. I’d be calling the police, for fear that he might thrash my restaurant if I insisted he pay the bill after he was done.

  • globalcitizen2222

    France is the most hate filled, arrogant, racist country i have experienced in the world as a global traveller. I am an asian millionaire and used to spend a lot of big money in France but they still treated me badly everywhere so now I stopped going there. Why should I give my money to a country that is so racist towards me? I dont like Paris at all now, or the rest of France…french racism is really the worst I have felt, and in most other european countries people are very nice and welcoming and friendly. The french have a bitter attitude towards the rest of the world even other Europeans dont like french. Only when no one goes to france and stops spending money there will the french realise that they need to learn how to respect others, but Its too deep in their behaviour to be arrogant and raicst so I think France will eventually collapse. As an economy they are going down very badly. Sorry but the majority of French are really very bad people.

  • globalcitizen2222

    This guy looks like a FREAK, even I would seat him the back if i managed an expensive upscale restaurant…I wouldnt want to scare away the rest of my clientele. Japanese celebrities like him arent well known in france, if he wants special attention at restaurants he should hire a manager and send the manager first to ensure he will be recognised and welcomed at the restaurant and treated like a celebrity. The way he dresses up, im surprised french restaurants even let him in at all, France is an old country with a sophisticated elegant culture…people like him are usually very poor and rowdy in France…most french dressed like him wouldnt be allowed into good restaurants and hotels…I think his style is just Tacky, he aint Michael jackson that the world would know him and accept his ridiculous style.

  • globalcitizen2222

    Asians are faaaaaar more racist than Europeans, Japanese are horribly racist, but even thais, chinese and singaporean chinese are very racist even towards other asians however there is positive racism in asia towards whites. Almost all Asians worship white skin, most of them are desperate to look like europeans and they severely look down upin blacks, south asians and anyone slightly dark skinned.

  • star

    In 1978, I entered a French bakery cafe in the morning. I’m Hispanic with an olive complexion, very rich, always leave 30%-40% tip for service, and was not served.
    Customers who sat down after me were waited on. After suffering this humiliation, I never returned to France. The French are very racist.

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