Comfort Women Agreement Provokes Backlash In Korea, Responses

Park Geun-hye and Abe Shinzo shake hands following comfort women agreement.

Over the past few days, the agreement between the Japanese and South Korean governments on the issue of the comfort women has made global news.

The nations reached a bi-lateral agreement settling the contentious issue over whether the Japanese government forced Korean girls and women to act as military prostitutes during WWII. As part of the agreement, Japan will set up a fund of one billion yen ($8.3 million) for the former comfort women, and Korea will consider the issue resolved provided that this is adhered to.

But the agreement has provoked a strong backlash in South Korea from the comfort women and their supporters. It has also prompted reactions from other nations whose women were also used as sexual slaves for the Japanese military, including Taiwan, as well as a reaction from within Japan itself.

This article from Yahoo! Japan prompted thousands of online comments, which show a characteristic discontent with the agreement. Some netizens seemed to take a perverse delight in the conflict that the agreement has incited in South Korea, mockingly suggesting that it may well lead to a civil war.

But as has often been the case with the narrative of the comfort women, the women’s voices themselves increasingly go unheard, as do the myriad issues that go beyond the national political concerns of Japan and Korea.

From Yahoo! Japan:

“It Is Impossible To Agree On Anything More Than We Have”: South Korean President Asks For Understanding On Comfort Women Issue

On January 31, the Office of the President of the Republic of Korea published a message to the Korean people regarding the Japanese-Korean agreement on the issue of the comfort women which asked for understanding:”While it might be said that we should go back to the drawing board and not agree with what has been offered, we would like everyone to understand that there is no margin for the government to achieve anything more than this within the lifetimes of the former comfort women”.

Although President Park Geun-hye announced a message to the Korean people immediately after the agreement on December 28, she appealed to them again today following a strong reaction from the former comfort women and the groups that support them.

The message was delivered by Kim Seong-u, public relations secretary for the Office of the President. Kim stated that successive governments had ignored the comfort women issue, but emphasized that the current administration “had faced negotiations with an understanding of their critical nature, and had done so in order to protect national interests in a diplomatic climate akin to a battlefield in which there is no sound of gunfire”. Kim explained that “We had done everything in our power to secure an admission of responsibility from the Japanese government, as well their public remorse, and their apology. We deem this to be sufficient progress within the bounds of what was possible”.

Moreover, the message was critical as regards the opposition party, the former comfort women, and comfort women support groups: “Although up to this point we made no progress through the efforts of private citizens, the fact that there is now a public opinion brewing which seems to suggest that the government has negotiated in error is of absolutely no benefit to the women who have suffered”. The president called for people to take things in a positive light, saying that “What we must do now is form a binding agreement with the Japanese government on taking a straight look at the historical narrative, and make this an opportunity for both of our nations to move together toward a new future. We would like everyone to understand this in the context of the bigger picture, and to work together.

Comments from Yahoo! Japan [in order of most upvoted]


It is completely intolerable that we form an agreement over a non-existent issue.


It seems like things are going to go sour in the country now, but things had been pretty weird up to now so not much we can do about it.


This is awful.


Looks like it’s time to pay for all the credit they used up doing things when it was convenient for them.


Payback for all the times they rehashed an issue that had already come to an end.


So unless they withdraw from the agreement there will be no progress? The ball is in their court.


Come on, this issue has already been dealt with. Withdraw from the agreement immediately, please.


Yeah, it’s impossible to agree on anything more than this, and it’s impossible for us to be involved with Korea any further.


It’s even worse than it was before now.
It’s impossible that things will get better.

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I’m sure there are some good people among them, but in Korea there is just too much anti-Japanese sentiment.

Comments from


Dissent among the ranks?


Hah, Korea is in tatters w


So does this mean that the Korean government intends to reconcile with Japan?


The government has now turned its anger on those crazy whores wwww


Seems like there are usually some fakes in among the prostitutes who are complaining.


Looks like this might start a civil war www


Umm, kinda seems to me that the gooks greatest enemy is the gooks themselves? [NB: Commenter uses the now derogatory term “chosenjin” which was the name for a Korean during the Japanese Occupation of Korea (1910 – 1945).]


To put it bluntly, the comfort women are just excess baggage to both the South Korean and the Japanese governments.


They’re getting their just desserts now.
You reap what you sow.
They got governmental support through their anti-Japanese sentiment, so now there’s a friction between their foreign diplomacy and their domestic affairs.


This is awful. The SK government used the comfort women as much as they could, and then at the last moment they just cast them aside.

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  • Not Impressed with Japan

    Disgusting comments. Not one single coherent logical argument. Way ta go Japan.

    • HerrowMyNameIsTojo

      Why you insult my Nippon! Get out of Japan foreigner! Japan for Nipponese only!

  • ITK

    Anyone who is curious as why Korea caved in and accepted such poor concessions after years of complaints should consider the following.

    Park’s families relationship with senior members of the Japanese establishment, not just talking about her father but her extended family as well.

    South Korea’s eye watering household debt and who owns that debt.

    • Mon2016key

      Like you know inside out story. Nobody caved in. Japan needs South Korea, South Korea need Japan. Both are American military and political allie. Both nations do not have time to waste because of Crazy Ass China Communist Party.

    • Xman2014

      Is that the kind of garbage your nationalist papers have been printing lately?

      • ITK

        Financial newspapers aren’t nationalistic in any country. Apart from the Korean ones who start shrieking about Jews whenever Samsungs profits dip a little bit.

        Who owns the debt? Start digging!

        • MyNameIsTojo

          Herrow, my name is Tojo.
          I rove Nippon!

        • terriblemovie

          Japan is the most indebted nation in the world. Its average wages and household income is lower than South Koreas. South Koreas per capita PPP is set to surpass Japans this year. GDP nominal is set to surpass Japans in 2019. South Korea has higher living standards(HDI) according to the UN.

          Koreas credit rating is higher than Japans according to all major international rating agencies and its GDP growth rate is much higher than Japans(whose economy actually contracted in Q3).

          Its true that financial newspapers arn’t nationalistic. Too bad you haven’t read one.

          • ITK

            Didn’t think I’d have to spell it out.

            Japanese debt is owned by the Japanese.

            Korean debt is owned by the Japanese.

            Look piggy, you’ve never set foot in Asia right? A draft dodger? Stuck in New Zealand living off mom and dad because you’d be completely unemployable in Korea. Let me tell you how things are.

            How many Japanese go to live in Korea each year? A few hundred to do business short term. Maybe a few thousand if you count students. All will return to Japan.

            How many Koreans go to live in Japan each year? We are talking several thousand from the girls going to work in the adult entertainment industry alone. If we talk students, businessmen, skilled laborers ect it’s the size of a football stadium. And all show zero interest in ever returning.

            So you can quote your pretty figures at me all you want piggy but those of us who know the real situation on the ground will just remind you that if Korea is such a utopia and Japan an economic wasteland, why aren’t the migration figures reversed?

            Piggy, ever asked your own parents why they left? Do you really think it was because Korea was too wonderful? LOL!

          • terriblemovie

            Where are your sources? This source says that Japans external debt is much much much higher than South Koreas.


            I also know you’re talking crap when you say Japan owns Koreas debt. What a load of crock. Unlike you, I can provide evidence for my claims. Here are my sources for the earlier points I made:

            Korea has higher credit rating than japan

            Higher wages

            Higher household income

            Higher living standards

            South Koreas GDP per capita set to surpass Japans this year:

            Japanese economy in recession

            South Korea grows fastest in 5 years for Q3

            Lol. Japan is garbage. Koreams do not immigrate to japan dipshit. The Koreans in Japan right now are long time residents who can’t even speak Korean. No one wants to live in that shitty, radioactive turd island.

          • Alex _

            No, Korea is garbage you cretin. Your pathetic nation’s GDP is still smaller than that of Tokyo. Korean PPP per capita is NOT going to overtake Japan this year, you idiot. And neither will GDP nominal per capita in 2019. Japan still has third economy of the world, while Korea is on 13th place, and its already slowing down sharply.

            Korea only managed to grow, because it received money from Japan in 50’s and 60’s. Not to mention, that it was almost completely build up during occupation years by Japan. And no, you fucking idiot. There is a lot more Koreans in Japan, than Japanese in Korea. Yes, Koreans DO immigrate to Japan.

            Nobody want to live in your shitty, pathetic nation on turd peninsula, with it quasi-fascist government, and insane communist neighbours ho can annihilate your country in any second.

          • terriblemovie

            Read the links I posted you simian. Koreas GDP per capita is expected to surpass Japan real soon. Hurts to know this huh? Koreas economy grew at its fastest pace in 5 years for Q3 while Japan experienced a recession. Korea already surpasses Japan in living standards(HDI), economic growth, wages, household income, innovation, credit rating, etc. No reason to compare Korea with a soon to be 3rd world radiation shithole like japan.


            Japans GDP isn’t even that high compared to other European countries. Koreas PPP per capita is expected to be 10-15% higher than Japan by 2020. Just goes to show how incompetent these monkeys are to be eclipsed so soon by a country that only began modernizing 4 decades ago. Korea grew thanks to Americas help. Japan did squat.

          • Alex _

            Shut the fuck up, you basement dwelling cretin. Korean GDP per C is NOT going to surpass Japan, you moron. Korean economy is in recession now, and Japan has much higher GDP. Like I said, Tokyo alone surpasses your pathetic country.

            Previously you said that Korean GDP PPP per capita will surpass Japan’s in this year, now you are saying that its going to happen in 5 years… you can’t even troll good enough. Korea only modernised because of Japan.

          • terriblemovie

            Why don’t you shut the fuck up you jap piece of shit. Korean economy grew at its fastest pace in 5 years for Q3.


            Japan on the other hand is in a total recession:

            I argue with facts son. All you can do is spout vulgar language and act like a petulant little child. You want to talk about Tokyo? Ulsan city Korea has a GDP per capita 1.5x higher than Tokyo. Korea wages are 13% higher than Japans.


            Korean household income is 17% higher than Japan. Its not even a contest. You japs are really fucking poor on an individual level.


            Face reality kid. Btw, Samsung by itself is larger than Japans ten largest electronics companies combined and then some.

          • Alex _

            Why won’t YOU shut the fuck up, you Korean piece of shit. Korean economy is NOT growing at such pace anymore, and its already fucking slowing down. And no, you fucking moron Tokyo has more GDP than your entire FUCKING pathetic country. Not to mention that GDP per capita is higher in Japan, despite Japan having much bigger population. Ulsan is a fucking pathetic, dirty industrial shithole.

            Japan has much bigger savings, than fucking Korean tards who spend all their money for education of their drone children, just to see them unemployed in the shitty Korean economy.

            Face reality, you fucking Korean cretin. BTW Samsung is a fucking shitty company, which copied everything from Japan. And Samsung is only so large because its a conglomerate of companies, you fucking retard. If you take away Shitsung, LG and Hyundai, there is nothing left in you shitty pathetic, backwatered nation.

            You owe everything to Japan, you fucking moron.

          • terriblemovie

            Another shit post by you with no statistics. You fucking simian, go read the links I provided. They all point to Koreas per capita GDP eclipsing Japans real soon. Soon as in within a couple of months to under 5 years at the most. This is for both PPP and nominal. If you got a major beef with what i’m saying then go take it up to the experts who wrote the article you gold fish IQ’d retard.

            Why do you keep mentioning Tokyo’s GDP? Tokyo’s population size is nearly the size of South Korea and its where all of Japans conglomerates are concentrated. Busans GDP would be significantly higher as well if all major Korean conglomerates were concentrated in one city rather than spread out.You want to talk about GDP per capita? Ulsan(Korean city) GDP per capita is already 1.5x that of Tokyo. Truth is, Tokyo is dirt poor for 99% of the populace. This is the reason why Japans household income and wages are far far lower than Koreas.

            Just because you whine, cry, bitch, moan and delude yourself into thinking the Korean economy isn’t growing doesn’t make it so. I proivded links showing Japan in recession while Korea growing at record pace. Here are the links again you jap monkey piece of shit.



            Keep telling yourself Samsung and Hyundai are shitty when they are rising. Samsung has rendered all shit jap tech companies useless. Who the fuck buys Panasonic or Sharp anymore?

          • Alex _

            Another shitpost posted by a fucking Korean tard. Japan is superior in every way, it has better economy you, military and GDP. None of your fucking shitty posts provides information on anything, other than biased, nationalistic bullshit. GDP per capita is not going to eclipse Japan’s, in couple of months, 5 yeas, or a fucking decade, you fucking moron. Nominal GDP per capita, i till much larger in Japan, you fucktarded moronic, basement dweller. The ‘experts’ who wrote those articles, were either paid off or were Korean nationalist.

            Tokyo population is NOT the size of Korea, you dumb fuck. 30 million live in Tokyo, and despite that, it still has greater GDP than South Korea. Not all Japan companies are concentration in Tokyo, you dumb fuck. I was talking about overall GDP, not per capita. Ulsan only has 1,1 million people, you fucktard. Its obvious that it will have greater GDP per capita than Tokyo. Tokyo is not dirt poor, its much fucking richer than your entire nation.

            Just because you whine, cry, bitch, moan and delude yourself into
            thinking the Korean economy is growing doesn’t make it so. You provided
            biased bullshit. Korea is in fucking recession, with increasing household debt. Japan is still superior in economy.

            Samsung and Hyundai are shitty, Samsung hasn’t rendered anything useless, Japan GDP is still superior, to shitty GDP of Korea.

            Korea is a fucking shithole country, which will always be far below Japan, in every way, face it.

          • terriblemovie

            Roflmao, you keep saying Korea is shit and that Japan is better. Yet you refuse to back it up with evidence. I don’t need to write anything further since I have plenty of sources written by new media outlets and experts on the subject. Heres a repeat of why Korea is better off than Japan:

            Japan is the most indebted nation in the world.

            External debt is nearly twice that of Koreas.

            Korea has a higher credit rating than Japan.

            Korean wages are 12% higher than Japans

            Korean household income is 17% higher than Japans.

            Korea has higher living standards according to the UN.

            Koreas GDP per capita set to eclipse Japans in a few months.

            Japan slides into recession for Q3

            Korea records fastest growth in 5 years for Q3

            According to Bloomberg, Korea is more innovative than Japan.

            By the way, a bunch of our posts have been deleted. Even the mods think you’re a moron.

          • Alex _

            No, you fucktaded Korean twat. Japan is superior in everything, including GDP per capita, both nominal and PPP, you fucktaded retard. It is already fucking 2016, and the PPP per capita is still higher in Japan, you brainless fucktard. Japan has also higher GDP and much more Nobel prizes than dumb fucks in Korea. Your sources are either outdated, nationalistic bullshit, or both.

            The mods are deleting your posts, because you are a fucktarded moron, who needs a solid punch in his face,

          • terriblemovie

            Wheres the evidence of any of the crap you just wrote? What superiority? I gave your illiterate ass several links showing Korea eclipsing Japan in GDP per capita, household income, wages, credit rating, living standard, innovation, economic growth and lower debt. The links come from mostly western sources.

            Go learn to read and quit living in denial you primitive simian.

          • Alex _

            You have NO fucking sources, you fucking retard. Japan is still superior to fucking backwater Korea, Tokyo alone is superior in GDP. Japan has higher GDP PPP per capita, and that is not going to change, even in five years. Japan has much higher population than Korea, and despite that, Korean retards are still incapable of having greater GDP per capita. Japan is superior in innovation, they have way more nobel prizes than Korean retards. Koreans are fucking pathetic, and have lower GDP, innovation (all they do is steal from the west) living standards are lower than in Japan.

          • syntheticzero

            I’m really curious, “Alex” and “terriblemovie”, who are you? This “fight” reads like some silly troll contest, like you’re trying to out-troll each other. I take it that “terriblemovie” you are Korean, but “Alex”, where are you from? Why do you care about this?

          • Alex _

            I care about this, because when I see fucking Korean tards like that guy, I have to take action. He finnaly went silent though, so he probably understood that Korea is NOT in any way superior to Japan.

          • syntheticzero

            Who are you? Where are you from? I would be embarrassed if you were Japanese-American like myself, yelling in such an impolite way online. It would be more understandable if you were Japanese or European or white or something.

          • Alex _

            Where I am from, does not matter. Suffice to say, I am disgusted by Korean propaganda on the Internet.

          • syntheticzero

            Oh yes, it really does matter. I can conclude you’re not Japanese-American at least, which would have really disturbed me. I am going to assume that you are a netouyo from Japan. That is the only real explanation for your lack of decorum.

          • Alex _

            I am not a netuyo. Stop jumping to conclusions.

          • syntheticzero

            Well, at least you’re not Japanese-American. That gives me some comfort.

          • terriblemovie

            Alex is more than likely Japanese and he is most certainly a netuyo moron with mental issues.

          • syntheticzero

            Maybe, though I’m thinking he’s some sort of misguided white “fan” of Japan who thinks he’s doing Japan a favor by yelling like this online. In somewhat awkward English.

            But yeah, maybe he’s Japanese. That would also be embarrassing, but then netouyo are an embarrassment for Japan to the entire world.

          • syntheticzero

            On the other hand, the whole thing is so over the top as to make it seem as though it’s all some sort of comedic troll performance.

          • Alex _

            My English is not ‘awkward’. Also, maybe you should focus more on that Korean idiot, who continuously keeps attacking your country?

          • terriblemovie

            I listed all of my sources you dumb shit. Here are them again you illiterate moron:

            Japan is the most indebted nation in the world.

            External debt is nearly twice that of Koreas.

            Korea has a higher credit rating than Japan.

            Korean wages are 12% higher than Japans

            Korean household income is 17% higher than Japans.

            Korea has higher living standards according to the UN.

            Koreas GDP per capita set to eclipse Japans in a few months.

            Japan slides into recession for Q3

            Korea records fastest growth in 5 years for Q3

            According to Bloomberg, Korea is more innovative than Japan.

            You keep mentioning all this shit with no evidence. I have given you source after source. Typical fucking monkey should learn how to read.

          • Alex _

            No, those aren’t even fucking sources, just carefully cherry picked bullshit. Japan is still ahead of fucking everything, including GDP per capita, you fucking moron. Tokyo itself still has higher GDP nominal than entire Korea.

          • terriblemovie

            Lol, not my fault you’re illiterate. Cherry picked my ass. Those stats come from the OECD, UN, and even Japans own economic data. Face it you lowly simian, your shitty island is going under and Koreans are finding it amusing. You keep mentioning Tokyo which is humorous. Ulsans GDP is nearly 1.5x that of Tokyo. Btw, why do you conveniently ignore the rest of Japan which is a shit hole? The stats I provide explicity state that Koreans enjoy higher wages, income, living standards, and gdp growth. Fucking monkey.,

          • Alex _

            No, you only cherry picked them. And Japan IS still superior in everything, as Koreans on Ilbe themselves have noticed. Japan is not going under, your shitty fucking Korean peninsula is though, with household debt! Ulsan GDP is 1.5 of Tokyo? Are you a fucktard? No, Tokyo has higher GDP than all of Korea. Also, Japan exports much more than Korea you dumb fuck.

          • Jun Yang

            Alex you’re not even Japanese…. I hate cowards like you who hides behind an anonymity of internet, using Japan as a mask to spout hatred. In the end, you’re only ruining the reputation of Japan
            You’re obviously someone who is in no relation to the Japanese people with anti-Korea mindset….
            terriblemovie sounds like a troll too but at least he’s proud of who he is unlike you….

          • Alex _

            He is proud of being a fucktarded moron, with IQ of a rock? Japan is ahead of Korea, and he knows it, yet he acts like an inbred imbecile.

          • terriblemovie

            Cherry picked data my ass. The data comes from the UN, OECD, and even the Japanese government. What data have you presented? NONE. Why can’t you address this simple fact? All you can do is bitch and moan about some imaginary “bias”.

            Look at Japans debt, economic recession, lower living standards, wages, household income, credit rating, etc. Its funny how a fucktard like you can only mention Tokyo’s GDP rather than address the points I listed. Ulsans GDP per capita is 1.5x higher than Tokyo’s. Why don’t address the rest of Japan? Japan is shit and you know it. The average Korean enjoys higher income and living standards.

          • Alex _

            No, the data comes from biased sources, you fucking retard. japan has way higher GDP, PPP both nominal and per capita, Ulsan has way less people, and Tokyo still has greater GDP. Japan is NOT in recession, when compared to Korea, which is ridden with corruption. You are the one who is a fucktard. Koreans have lower GDP and PPP per capita, you basement dwelling trash, and Japan is fucking light years ahead of Korea.

          • terriblemovie

            Blah blah blah can you come up with something new for once? You repeat the same shit over and over again. You mention Tokyo and Tokyo only which is why I brought up the fact that Ulsans GDP and standard of living makes Tokyo look like a 3rd world country. I already gave you fucking links showing Koreas PPP is set to eclipse Japans in a few months.

            Furthermore, Korea as a whole enjoys higher income, wages, living standard, credit rating, technology, lower debt, etc. The only thing you can fucking do is mention Tokyo which is irrelevant when the rest of Japan is even shittier then Tokyo. Korean cities like Ulsan makes Tokyo look like a mud hut shit hole and you know it.

          • Alex _

            No, Ulsan’s living standards are fucking pathetic, compared to superior Japanese city of Tokyo. PPP of Korea IS NOT fucking going to surpass Japan, you inferior fucking moron, its still far behind it.

            Korea has a shitty wages/living standards, and household debt.

            The Ulsan is a fucking 3rd world shithole compared to superior city of Tokyo. Japan also has superior technology, and much more Nobel prizes.

          • terriblemovie

            Ulsans GDP per capita is 75k compared to Tokyos which is 50k. Seouls GDP per capita was 49.5k in 2011. I’m betting Seouls GDP per capita is already higher than Tokyos considering Japans economy has been contracting while Koreas is growing.

            You’re a fucking dumb shit chimpanzee who should learn how to read.

            Disposable income(2014)
            Korea: $29,696
            Japan: $26,287


            Gross household income(2013)
            Korea: $40,861
            Japan: $34,822

            Go fucking learn to read.

          • Alex _

            No, you are a fucktarded Korean monkey, who needs to learn using common sense. Tokyo has 30 million, Ulsan has 1.5 million. And despite all that, Tokyo GDP per capita is still fucking high, and higher than that of Seoul.

            Ulsan is still a fucking shithole, Tokyo is the technological capital of the world. Korea has horrible household debt, while Japanese people have large savings.

          • terriblemovie

            Japans economy shrunk 1.4% for Q4 of 2015.

            Koreas economy grew .6% for Q4 of 2015.

            Lol, Japan is getting poorer and poorer with more and more debt. Wouldn’t be surprised if Koreas PPP per capita already surpasses Japans. We’ll know in a few months when official data comes out. Expect the gap to grow. By 2020, Koreas PPP per capita is expected to be 10-15% higher than Japans. Silly poor Japs.

          • Alex _

            No, Japan is still fucking light years ahea of backwtered Koreans, with Tokyo alone having bigger GDP than entire shitty nation (including Ulsan) Korean PPP is not going to surpass Japan’s PPP.

          • terriblemovie

            Like a fucking chimp who can’t learn new tricks, the only thing you seem to be able to repeat is Tokyo-Tokyo-Tokyo. Listen you dumb ape, Korean cities like Ulsan have a GDP that is 1.5x higher than your beloved Tokyo. Tokyo is outright poor compared to certain Korean cities. Furthermore, as a WHOLE, Koreans enjoy higher living standards, household income, wages, credit rating, lower debt, internet speed, etc. The only thing you seem to be able to repeat is Tokyo which is funny because Tokyo isn’t Japan. Its just one city in Japan. Overall, Japan is much worse off according to every single metric statistic i’ve given your illiterate ass.

            Its also outright sad how you upvoted your own comment. What a fucking chimp. Enjoy your recession. Japans economy is crashing as we speak.

          • Alex _

            No, Ulsan is a fucking shithole, like I said earlier. And No, you fucktard Ulsans GDP per capita is not that impressive, considering it only has 1.5 million people.

            Tokyo is one of the richest cities on the planet, and a clear sign of eternal superiority over Japan. Japan has superior technology, and superior economy. Also, Japanese products are superior to copy-cat products of Koreans. Korean living standards are fucking shitty compared to that of Japan’s bigger cities.

            Enjoy your fucking recession, while Japan prospers. You only developed because japan industrialized you.

          • Peninsula264356

            Grow up White flag. You’re angle in life are pathetic. Every nation has a strong and weak points.

          • Alex _

            Another Korean tard? You are the one who is pathetic.

          • Alex _

            No, you grow up, and stop being a moron.

      • Whatever he told, this one is nothing to do with my country, so have no misunderstanding please.

  • Mon2016key

    Nobody caved in. South Korea comfort woman statue will stay in her place. Like British asking Americans remove ” Statue of Liberty”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pizza is Chinese

    So it’s like some fuckhead rapes me. I sue him. Then lawyers without my consent come to an agreement and I, the victim, doesn’t even get to participate in the process?

  • vonskippy

    And the rest of the world gives Japan & SK a nice sincere golf clap ending something that no one else gives a shit about since it happened seven plus decades ago during a freaking world war

  • MyNameIsTojo

    Herrow my name is Tojo!

    Rice to meet you!

    Why Kankokujins bad! Kankokujins commit lots of climes in Japaan!

    I rove Nippon!

    Nippon the glatest country! Nippon pure!

    We Nipponese samurai!

    We Nipponese kind and we rove sushi!


    • Fat gyopo virgin

      WAAAAHHHH! It’s Japan’s fault I look like I have downs syndrome!

      WAAAAHHH! It’s Japan’s fault every girl at high school laughed in my face!

      WAAAAHHHH! It’s Japan’s fault I haven’t had a shower since 1997!

      WAAAAAHHH! It’s Japan’s fault that I still live with my parents at age 40!

    • besudesu

      Umm, no, your name is racist.

  • LeeYongSoo is Liar

    It serves you right !

  • terriblemovie

    Lol, the Japanese actually somehow believe this is a victory for them? I can’t help but wonder what kind of delusional world these little people live in. These Japanese probably believe Korea and China are economically struggling right now while Japan is more powerful than the US. They are really that deluded.

    The Japanese government agreed to recognize, apologize, and pay the comfort women. I’m not sure how these idiots can twist this into a Japanese diplomacy victory.

    • JEng

      they are distracted by the pain this is causing Koreans – they lap that up – but it does not look like a victory for Japan at all as it begins another stint as a temporary member of the UN Security Council.

      For some reason, they think that Korea’s retirement from joining China in applying for the Comfort Women on the memory wall by UNESCO means it will not happen but didn’t Korea singly fail at getting that done? Maybe China can pull it off on its own if Korea had a flawed application anyway.

      They can’t block the Comfort Women application by a non Korean because they did it everywhere – in Hong Kong (the british are witnesses), Jan Ruff O Herne, the Filipinas, etc.

      I don’t understand why Japan chose to do this.

  • JEng

    If the Korean government felt they had no choice, then we should let it go and proceed individually and privately in support of the KOREAN Comfort Women unless their civic groups feel that they want their privacy and to maintain silence, in which case we should respect that and only discuss China’s millions raped including the children – even more Chinese children were raped than Korean girls were raped. MILLIONS.

    Japan may feel Korea is the most official Comfort Women and therefore will only do this deal with them – they have already rejected Taiwan which disgraces the accommodations that Taiwan continues to give Japan.

    To me, this agreement is not a problem. Comfort Women is just a conniving term for gangrape victims that the Japanese government planned. I have no doubt that Hirohito not only personally benefitted from all the looting but also the raping. Probably Bingbings and Chilings and Miss Koreas were sent to him along with little boys since he was all about the home invasion incest rapes. There is no way he would leave himself out of raping Chinese children.

    Japan failed to use the Comfort Women agreement to their best advantage – possibly America misdirected – while telling Japan that you and me, baby, we’re going to bomb China – we’re going places, lovey!

    Straight to Hell is where Japan is headed – with the demand that the statue be removed otherwise no HUSH MONEY and rejecting Taiwan who postwar has always played nice with Japan at the expense of its own reputation.

  • KoreanLand

    Green jacket looks nice.

  • Dave Park

    From what I know of this topic, most Koreans feel that they only just received what I like to call, “f*ck off money”.

    Japan: Here’s money, now shut up and f*ck off. Sorry, not sorry.

    But I feel that most Koreans do not realize what a huge thing this is. The Japanese government has officially apologized and even more so, they have officially recognized that such a travesty has occurred by the Japanese government during that time.

    Maybe more could have been done such as the un-washing of history textbooks. But it is a lot easier to pay $8 million in “f*ck off money” than to educate children that their beloved nation had done some serious shit in the past.

    • Pizza is Chinese

      Japanese government always have included comfort women in their official speech. The problem was their right wing party always said some shits that denied such thing happened in their “private” conversation, and that they kept trying to take back that apology their left wing party made.

      Also, 8.3 million yen is nothing.
      Koreans sent more money during Japanese earthquake.

  • bumfromkorea

    Has it even been a month? The cycle of apology –> fuck you –> get over it already is starting again.

    Let’s hear it, Tenno heika banzai gaijin squad. Let’s hear about how Japan apologized already, and how South Koreans will never be satisfied with any apologies.

  • commander

    As a non-Japanese, what is most diffcult to understand with Japan’s trajectory in statements on wartime atrocities–a disgruging admission, then offensive retraction with an insulting remarks– is why Japan make a full admission of what it did without repudiation, make a heartfelt reconcilation with victimized countries and then start anew for what conservative politicians seeks as a beautiful country?

    Of course, it is not easy to confront past wrongdoings, and facing it as it was requires courage and bravery.

    But aren’t courage and bravery things that are highly admired as elements of Japan’s samurai spirit? Where are they now?

    Plus, what should be noted here about acknowledgement and apology is that when Japan offers sincere apology, no country will look down on the island country. Instead, it will draw praise and help dispel some doubt in neighboring countries over whether Japan’s attempt at its pacific constitution’s repeal is concerned with a dangerous militarism.

  • syntheticzero

    I come back to japanCRUSH after months of avoiding it because of all the hateful comments that japanCRUSH loves to post from Yahoo Japan and and, of course, yet again, that’s all they post here, because it seems there are a ton of Japanese losers who waste their lives posting hateful right-wing comments online.

    Yet, the actual, person-to-person experiences I have had with Koreans, in Korea, and Koreans I know who have visited Japan in person, are quite different. And face facts: Japan and Korea, for all the historical animosity, have more in common with each other than differences.

    Where is Japanese courage and bravery on the topic of Japanese war crimes, @commander? It is there. Read Haruki Murakami, or Ryuichi Sakamoto, or Hayao Miyazaki, Japanese people who actually have integrity and wisdom. My own family has samurai roots, and we also have always been opposed to what Japan did during the war. These pusillanimous bakatare netouyo idiots represent the bottom of the barrel of Japanese civilization. They are embarrassing and ought to be ashamed of themselves for their weakness and stupidity.

    • besudesu

      I feel like we’ve had a conversation about how comments are selected for this site before. This site is run by people who are giving up their free time to translate things so that non-Japanese speakers can see the Japanese Internet in the same way as any Japanese person can. All unpaid labor to give people a glimpse of Japanese Internet culture. So thanks for making us feel really good about that.

      You may think the netouyo are idiots, but they do represent a significant portion of online activity. We can’t change that. And we don’t editorialize or sanitize the comments that come with the articles- that’s part of the site policy.

      There’s a reason people like Murakami, Sakamoto and Miyazaki are so famous. It’s because they stand out. Not because they’re representative. Netizen comments are a snapshot of the feelings of one particular portion of society on one particular issue. And guess what? Also not representative.

      • syntheticzero

        I understand, besudesu. But, nevertheless, you are not really considering the larger impact of your “policy”. The fact is, sites like Yahoo! Japan and 2ch do not represent a broad cross-section of Japanese opinion. It is simply a strange fact about Japanese internet use that right-wingers tend to post exclusively on discussion sites and progressive people do not. Yet, many people in Japan have different opinions which they share privately or on Twitter or Facebook.

        The problem is, you aren’t making any adjustments for this fact. Americans and Westerners and other people unfamiliar with the way Japanese internet works come here and see these sorts of comments and assume that EVERYONE in Japan thinks this way. Because in the US, there are people from every side of the political spectrum who post on Reddit and so on.

        So, I continue to assert that the fact that you aren’t taking into account the way this appears to others, you are causing harm. Policies which appear “neutral” on the surface, without considering context and other factors, are not, in fact, neutral.

        You are doing this site to give people access to the Japanese internet. I presume Koreabang has a similar purpose. Yet, you aren’t considering the great harm you are doing by not thinking about the impact this “policy” has.

        • syntheticzero

          Thinking about how something appears to people who do not have the entire cultural context, rather than just adopting a “policy” — that is the heart of user experience design. If the net result of a “neutral” policy is to give people a very skewed impression of a country and the diversity of opinion there — then it isn’t actually “neutral” at all.

    • I don’t think your family really has such roots as I told you before, and it’s not only out of my opinion, but also of a historical author.
      And as I told you, having a Bushi ancestor is nothing to be proud of.
      Why don’t you understand that it is NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF, even in case it were.
      IT IS NOTHING HONORABLE, why don’t you understand.
      Why do you think it can be proud of?
      Being born to be a privileged class is NOTHING to do with PRIDE in the first place.
      You are sick about it.
      I told you “better not talk about ‘your roots that you believe in’ to anyone coming from Japan”, meaning Japanese locals, but I think you should not talk about it on a place like here either.
      Finding a more value in an attribution or regard to some privileged class is, nothing to do with humanity or justice, rather something to do with inequality, I told you so by then, why don’t you understand any bit piece of what I said.
      Mitsu, objectively speaking, you are someone very American, that is an only feature I know about you.
      But it’s not a bad thing, just a fact.

      • syntheticzero

        Haha, yes, I know, Michiko, we had this discussion before. As I told you before — I agree, in terms of pride, of course it doesn’t matter at all what my family background is, or what anyone’s family background is — it only matters who the person is, today. The reason I mention it is that the right wing in Japan used “Bushi” symbolism and propaganda during the war, and I wanted to say that their idea of what “samurai” means was a bizarre distortion of what samurai culture actually was, at least for some, including my family. I do think you also have a distorted/unrealistic idea about what samurai culture was, but that is also okay. It makes sense, because you are right that it was an old, outdated system that was a kind of military dictatorship, and oppressive. However, it wasn’t only that — the entire world was like this (feudal, with military dictatorship, run by nobility), and compared to some other systems like it in other countries, the Japanese system had some slightly less bad qualities. Of course it needed to be dismantled, and it is good that this era is over, but it wasn’t quite as you seem to think it was, even though it needed to end.

        In terms of my “talking about it” — after my experience talking with you I spoke with my father about it and he said it was a mistake for me to talk about it with you, because people from Japan either have two types of reactions — they get angry, as you did, or they think it’s a lie or fake, or they are overly impressed. These reactions are inappropriate and so it is best not to mention it. So, you’re right that it is best for me not to mention it to Japanese — however, this site is not primarily read by Japanese people (except for you!) and again, I mention it simply for the reasons I stated above — even the right wing, who idolize the bushi period, have no clue what it was really about. Then again most Japanese don’t really know.

        In terms of your “historical author” friend, I am sure he is a very respectable person with extremely solid understanding of history. And if he is right, and my family background is made up, or in error, that is okay. In fact, it is certainly possible. However, as I said to you before — I have many relatives in Japan, our family intermarried with many other samurai families, including some historians of the area (Itsukaichi is close to where our castle was), and I’ve met with them, my father has met with them, he grew up around them, and so forth. If it is true that our family story is fabricated, it is also true that for some reason, many other samurai families in the Hiroshima area were fooled by it, because they intermarried with us, they knew us, it wasn’t just this story we told ourselves. Lord Asano, an ally of our family, came to visit my father’s household many times when my father was a child, the Asanos acknowledged our roots, as well, and so on. But it doesn’t matter — it seems to me that you have a much stronger reaction to my family story than I do. It is only a funny historical story to me, but to you it seems to have importance, which is why it was a mistake for me to speak about it with you. You have a strong reaction, because you are Japanese, and these stories mean much more to you than they do to us as Americans.

        As for how much I am Japanese and how much I am American — Of course, I am an American. I grew up here, and my main cultural references are American, and so are my attitudes. But, as an American, I am much more Japanese than other Americans. You might not be able to see that because you don’t really know what American culture is like. To you, I seem just American, but to Americans, I am different from them, and I can see it in many, many ways. I am really neither typically American nor am I Japanese — I am something different. My family culture is of course very different from Japanese culture. But my family culture is also very different from the typical American culture, and that is something only Americans or Japanese-Americans can really appreciate. I have many relatives from Japan and in the United States, both Japanese and now Korean from Korea — of course, I am much more American than my Japanese relatives (and I am much more American than my new Korean relatives) — but I am, nevertheless, very different from most Americans, and I can understand and relate to Japanese and Koreans much more easily than most Americans can — it comes out in many ways which I could tell you about if you were interested. My children, however, will probably be more American than I am, and so forth. Though they will have a Korean mother, who grew up in Korea, so perhaps they will retain some Asian cultural qualities. I hope so. In any case, it will be interesting to see how that goes.

        • Who’s most bizarre is you.
          “what samurai culture actually was” is NOT what you deem of.
          Bushi was not like a knight in the west at all.
          Bushi was not a guardian, not a hero who’s saving a weak, why do you need to deny this fact.
          Do you know what 無礼討ち or 切り捨て御免 means?
          Do you still see “samurai culture” something to be proud of after you know what it means?

          Problem is you who’s still seeing some extra value or meaning on being Bushi.
          I seriously like to ask you, why being a poor farmer is not enough to be your ancestor?
          Over 90 some % of the Japanese were always peasants, like your ancestors actually were, what is wrong with that.
          Peasant was a proper name for us the Japanese, what is wrong with that.
          Bushi was the name of the few people who were not farming, eating the rice that the others provided, in sitting on a privilege, what is there to be proud of?

          Being Bushi is nothing commendable, nothing supreme.
          They were not really meant to protect the people of lower classes, while they killed them on a whim.
          They didn’t represent ordinary Japanese culture at all.
          “Anytime ready to die for my boss, so I don’t farm” is never stood for an ordinary Japanese culture.

          Mitsu, you and your family should be proud of your ancestors being a poor farmer as they were, as it is nothing shameful.
          Being a poor Japanese farmer is much to be proud of, for doing a proper Japanese business=farming, and for killing no one, or for not exploiting over others, so you are offending your ancestors by decorating their resume.
          Your ancestors are enough proud for their descents, only for being your ancestors.
          No need for them to be made up as Bushi.

          • syntheticzero

            Of course, there’s nothing wrong with having farmer ancestors. YOU are the one who thinks that samurai must think of themselves as higher value or something like that — perhaps because you are Japanese. I am an American, so I don’t think of it this way. All types of people are of course absolutely equal in value, and everyone ought to be equally proud of their ancestors — samurai, farmers, merchants, burakumin, foreigners… all exactly equal. Japanese culture often makes a big deal about different classes and races being different value — that is really sad and unfortunate. But you imagine I think this, perhaps because you are Japanese, but I do not.

            Most of my ancestors WERE NOT samurai — my grandmother’s family were and are a rich business family. She was the first non-samurai to marry into my family. Every other person on my father’s father’s side going back forever were samurai, but my grandmother was not. As you should know, samurai almost never married non-samurai during the Edo period — people were very careful about checking ancestry before getting married. That is true of all my grandfather’s relatives — they were all from samurai families. Even today, Japanese often do this, which I think is kind of crazy. But my grandmother broke that tradition: her family is wealthy and very smart, but they were not samurai. My mother’s ancestors were also a mixture of samurai and non-samurai. So I have mostly non-samurai ancestors. That doesn’t matter, at all, as far as value. They were and are all equal value, of course.

            What I am talking about is the family culture, which was passed down through the generations. Suppose your friend is right, and my family were not descended from who we think we are, despite the fact that everyone, including the lord of Hiroshima, and all my samurai relatives, thought we were samurai? But what does that matter? Whether the story is true or not, they lived as samurai. They married other samurai, and so on. Whether that is good or bad, I will not argue with you — because clearly you have a very strong opinion, and I respect that. But it was a particular culture.

            My samurai relatives in Hiroshima are very serious people, they even eat very differently from other people. They’re what we would call “spartan” in English. It’s very strange from my point of view as a Japanese-American. I can list out the different families I am related to, but I don’t want to get into that sort of discussion. But anyway, that’s how my father was raised when he was a little child, but now of course since living in the United States he is much more relaxed. Whether our ancestry is “real” or not — he was raised in that sort of household, and so were his cousins and aunts and uncles and relatives — all samurai on his father’s side. So that is the culture of his upbringing, whether our story is “true” or not. So I am talking about that culture, which my father got from his father, grandfather and relatives.

            There is something I wish I could share with you about my family culture, if you met my parents you might understand. But, we cannot argue about this online. 🙂 All I can say is: I agree completely that samurai and farmers are exactly equal in value, as all human beings are.

          • who thinks that samurai must think of themselves as higher value or something

            This is a source of your problem.
            As I iterated, it’s NOT MY OPINION but a fact.
            Bushi was a privilege class of the caste system.
            And you are someone who has no ability to understand what caste system is like.
            Because you are American, and because you don’t speak or read Japanese at all, so you don’t understand what all our features are like.
            You are mistaking the premise to interpret Japanese features.
            It is LANGUAGE, from A to Z.
            You are someone who has no decent ability to have a precise comprehension about Japanese affairs to begin with.
            Even some white man from Staten Island, who’s an annoying weeaboo=Japan freak westerner, is getting little capable of language Japanese, while you, as a Japanese descent, are not at all.
            What do you think of yourself having nothing to do with the language.

            But it’s okay if you didn’t have a wrong idea, but you have.
            Likewise you are someone really arrogant, who deems of himself able to go beyond a local Japanese in comprehending Japanese affairs.
            In reality you can’t, what you need to do is to admit you can’t.

            You failed to meddle with our features since when you gave up learning language Japanese, of course it is not a bad thing for someone American, but you already failed, as you gave it up on your own, fact is fact.

            What I expect you of most now is, if only you really take care of a country where your ancestors were ever kicked out, to go outstanding more and more with your girlfriend, to show it off to those other Japanese Americans who have a wrong idea, that you two are much getting along with, that is the best thing you can do to contribute to peace of Japan.
            Let them quiet, let them stop bothering us local Japanese who seek peace in the region, let them stop cooperating with Japanese extremists, those revisionist, yes you can, and that is a feature that I can’t.

          • syntheticzero

            Michiko, I respect what you are doing in Japan, fighting extremists. Of course, as you know, I completely agree with what you are doing.

            And yes, I think I was not clear — of course I know that samurai in the old days thought of themselves as superior to everyone else, and the caste system was rigid and unfair and so on. Of course that was the case in Japan. I am saying that *I* do not believe this, perhaps because I am an American, but also because it is modern times. We have gone beyond those sorts of old ideas. They are outdated. And even today, families in Japan still think too much about ancestry and so forth. But I don’t think that way, that is all I am trying to tell you.

            As far as my understanding of Japanese culture — you have to remember that, while I am an American, and I grew up here, you are not the only Japanese person I know. My father grew up in Japan, my grandparents grew up in Japan, I lived with them when I was growing up. I studied the Japanese language a bit but I did not learn it well. But, I studied Japanese philosophy and Japanese martial arts with Japanese sensei, and I have many relatives in Japan, and of course I know many Japanese people who live in the United States. So, yes, I cannot fully understand Japanese culture, but I do have an understanding of my family culture, my father’s culture, my grandparents, my great-grandparents; I met them, I lived with them, I grew up with them, I knew them. So — I do not know most of what it is like to be in Japan, but though you may not believe it, I know something about my own family culture, which originated in Japan.

            One of my Japanese martial arts teachers who was visiting America from Japan said of me, after he saw me doing a kata in the dojo, that I seem completely American on the surface, the way I talk and dress and walk. I am relaxed, I laugh easily, I am not as polite as Japanese, and so on. But, when he saw me do a kata on the field, he was surprised because I looked completely Japanese. On the surface, I am American, underneath, there is still something Japanese there. I have done zazen meditation for many decades, as well. So my understanding of the roots of Japanese culture is not quite as shallow as you might believe.

            There is something else which you might not believe, but I will mention it. Sometimes some things are easier to see when you see it from the outside, when you can contrast it with the way things are somewhere else. Many things about Japan are just natural to you, but to me, I can see how different Japanese culture is from American culture, because I can see how different my own family is from most American families. The contrast itself makes a lot of things much more clear than it might be to someone living in Japan. Just as many things about America may be more clear to people who see it from the outside.

            But we can agree on two things: one, that I can speak with Americans better on the topic of not supporting extremists than you can, and two, there were many terrible things about the old era. We will disagree, I think, that there was nothing good at all about samurai culture — I know there was both good and bad. Samurai were not all the same. But yes, it is good that era is over.

          • At least I think I have the right to require you of not spreading a wrong idea about Bushi to foreign people(meaning, non-Japanese local) further.
            We locals don’t brag about having Bushi ancestors, because we have reason not to, so you better not either no matter you “believe that you certainly have one” or not.
            In western world, it is not only you or your family who hold some “romantic figure” about Japanese Bushi, but it’s just an imagination.
            We locals don’t need it at all.
            Bushi was not the people who represent the ethnic Japanese, also its “culture” actually not a feature to call culture, was not something representing Japanese culture.
            While western knight and Japanese Bushi are totally different features, you look you definitely commingle the two.

            Think about it, reason why your ancestors told your family “do not talk about our lineage”, don’t you think it has some reason rational?
            While it has nothing bad for leaking out anymore.
            While no one will come following you to kill you, for a punishment of “hundreds years ago”.
            Because they knew it should have been easily revealed as it’s not real, when someone local hears it.
            Like me, like others.
            So they told “not to talk”.
            I don’t blame them for making it up, because it must have been a story they needed to make them have courage to keep alive in a total foreign soil like USA, when they were the people having no place to be in their homeland, so much so that being kicked out, and the spell that your great grandfather cast did work, so to make his descents thriving much, that is okay, problem is, that his spell have worked too much, too far.

          • syntheticzero

            Your story about my great-grandfather does sound quite believable, it makes a lot of sense! In fact, I think I told you that when I first heard my family story when I was a child, I doubted it 🙂 It sounded exactly like something my great-grandfather might have made up in order to help our family do well. Of course, that was my first thought, as it is yours.

            But, as I keep saying, when I got older I actually went to Japan, I met my relatives, I have seen the family graveyard, I have met other samurai families who live in Hiroshima who are our relatives, and so on. I still have relatives in Hiroshima today who have many family relationships with many other samurai families there. If our family were simply farmers who had made up a story, there’s no way we would have convinced all those other families to intermarry with our family. How do you explain that? Do you believe they’ve ALL made up their family stories? Because I have met my relatives, they’re all there in Hiroshima and Itsukaichi, that’s when I realized the story must be true. Not that it matters very much — it is simply a strange historical story which, even though it’s hard to believe, it’s true.

            You remember you found the ancient record of the Takaki lord who was driven out of our castle in Itsukaichi? The descendants of the Takaki still live there, in Itsukaichi. We also know them, and they also acknowledge that we are the main line descendants of the original Takaki lord.

            It is a strange story, the story of my family — but there are many other people who know who we are. If my great-grandfather was just a farmer who made up a story, then there wouldn’t be all these other people who would verify it. But yes, I can understand why it sounds hard to believe. I thought so too when I was a child.

            However, as I have said many times — it doesn’t matter anymore, it doesn’t mean I am “better” than anyone else or anyone in our family is better. All it means is — this is my family history, and I have some reason to know something about my own family culture.

          • Your relatives in Hiroshima are, not out of Bushi class.
            It means, their ancestors were all farmers.
            You still don’t understand what Bushi would be.
            Self-claiming is not available, Bushi needed to belong to the Bushi class in Edo era.
            It was a class of the caste system.
            Your relatives are not the descents of “Samurai family” either.
            They will never tell me “so” when they actually talk to me.
            Because they know they are not.
            But it is their right to talk about some “lineage belief” inside the family, it’s not my business, also not only them who are talking about such “noble story” inside.
            They know it, so they won’t tell me the same.
            They know “what kind of reaction” is going to come, when they talk about it to someone local Japanese.
            What they will get most of the time is, a genuine “laugh”.

            There are always certain people telling such a story about “noble descendants” in Japan, from really long long ago.
            Noble descendant story is just a cli-che in my country.
            So it rang a bell at the moment when I heard the story of your family, but I refrained from pointing it out so roughly.
            After I heard all of the “history” of your family, it made my conviction more stable.
            It is never real.
            Your great grandfather and grandfather must have been satisfied of the prosperity of their descents already, so the spell is not needed anymore.

          • syntheticzero

            Haha, Michiko, you are a very funny person. Sometimes I think you must be younger than I am? I am 50 years old — the time period of my great-grandfather’s life was right after the Edo period. My relatives’ families weren’t salarymen who were going around talking about bushi ancestors; they had been samurai very recently, and everyone knew who they were. For instance, my father’s great-grandmother was still alive when my father was a child, and she was the daughter of a lord from Shikoku. We are also related to the Morita family, who were also very recently samurai at that time. And we are related to the Nakagawa clan, and as I told you before, the Asano clan were the lords of Hiroshima, and they also acknowledged our claim, and so on. Lord Asano used to visit my father’s household, and my father and his grandfather frequently went to the Asanos for events — it was not only at that one event I mentioned to you, where they sat my father down next to the head of the table (I think you had some theory that they just were honoring some farmer kid one time at a festival or something, haha): my father and his grandfather went to the Asanos frequently for events, wearing formal clothing which my father still owns. I think I made a mistake when I told you my family story to imply that my father was living like a farmer when he was a child — they lived as samurai, and were acknowledged as such by the local daimyo (well, they weren’t formally daimyo anymore, but they held a sort of honorary status). Yes, I know my family story sounds hard to believe, but it is, in fact, true.

            None of this is so far into the past, for me — when my great-grandfather was alive, all these things were still very recent, not stories from long ago. These are my relatives, and allies of our family, they are not just ordinary people in modern times who “claim” to be bushi. I think, for you, all these things are so far into the past that anything could be possible — but that’s not the case for me. These events are quite recent for people like my father, my grandparents, and great-grandparents. My relatives were well-known samurai families, and yes, they were from the bushi caste. Of course, I’m sure you’ll just come up with some other reason to say this isn’t true, et cetera, hahaha. You are a very stubborn person 🙂

            Anyway, setting that aside — as I said before, I have also practiced Zen and martial arts with teachers from Japan. And there are aspects of the old culture which simply were totally ignored by the wartime leaders during World War II. However, clearly, this is something that you feel very convinced of, your picture of how things were — both then and during the Edo period, and you aren’t going to change your mind — so, leave it at that. Good luck with your efforts fighting the netouyo, which I support.

          • I have no idea why you need to stick to “noble born” so much, as I told you before, but what most matters to the background of your family is, the fact that your great grandfather needed to go out from Japan for labor work.
            Like all the other poor farmers who were not born to be a first son.
            Your great grandfather was nothing different than the other people going abroad for labor, mostly with a farm work.
            This is a fact to tell the truth more than anything, that your ancestors were not noble, not wealthy.
            But as I said, it is nothing shameful, but something to be proud of.
            There was no one who came from a wealthy family in the people migrated to abroad.
            Even my family members in both sides were never thinking about a migration kind of issue while there were the times really really poor, barely making a life.
            The people going out were going out because they had no place to be.
            But it’s not their fault.
            They needed a better life or less worse life than that of what they could have got in Japan.

            You are supposed to have done something with your ability in language Japanese before you tried Zen or martial art, that is what I meant to tell you by then, but I didn’t.
            You are a really funny man, in believing that such features are the things that will make you have a better idea about the country where your ancestors came from, even you are lacking all the ability for its language.
            You are wrong.
            What you needed is the language ability, language language language, that is all, simple and plain.
            No need for Zen, no need for martial art at all.
            Those things haven’t made you someone available of Japanese features in fact.
            Also those are the things even white men or black men are practicing, why you, a Japanese descent needs to learn such too like they do, to have a precise comprehension about Japan.

            You know, as I told, even some weeaboos are trying to handle language Japanese, not a one white man, I know many others.
            You should feel some shame about it, before you brag of Zen or martial art.

            However, cursing you is not what I meant, what I hope is like I said, you and your wife going to make them know, that they have a wrong idea.
            Certain Japanese Americans definitely have a wrong idea about history, or politics regarding Japan, trying to interfere with our business, this is truly bothering.
            If you really care, let yourself do something about it, they are wrong, and they don’t listen to me saying “you have a wrong idea” or “stop meddling” at all.
            Taking care of them so not to bother us must be your vocation, yes you can. Good luck.

          • syntheticzero

            You always make me laugh, Michiko, but I do not mean to make fun of you — but you are always so certain of everything, even when you aren’t right. But I am glad you are certain about fighting netouyo. My great-grandfather didn’t go abroad for “farm labor” — he went abroad to try to start a sugar plantation. They weren’t wealthy, but they certainly weren’t poor. I’m not sure why you think all samurai were wealthy — samurai were definitely not all rich. My great-grandfather’s idea when he left Japan was to start a large sugar plantation, like C&H; he was not a farm laborer. We had social status, but not great wealth, so he thought that starting a large plantation might be a way we could acquire wealth — not because he cared about money, but he thought that in the new (Meiji) era it could be useful for us to have financial resources to do various things. He kept the family home in Hiroshima, of course, but then he went to Hawaii first to study the sugar plantations there (he didn’t work as a farm laborer there!) Then he went to Taiwan, bought land, hired farm workers, and so on. It didn’t work out because the weather is not good for that in Taiwan (typhoons), so he came back to Japan.

            I will trust my own (Japanese) teachers and my family, of course, about these matters (about Japanese culture), before I trust your opinion, Michiko — but I do respect you. I don’t understand much about the surface of Japanese culture — the customs, the rules, the forms — but I understand things about some of the roots which even most Japanese in Japan do not know about anymore. You don’t believe it — we will just have to disagree, that’s fine.

            As for Zen: it is a very deep, difficult thing to study — it is another thing most Japanese do not know about much anymore. I wish more people had some understanding of it — it would help both Japan and the world.

            And yes, good luck to you also.

          • Forgot to mention, there will be potentialities for you to get a physical threat all the time, unless you strive really hard to make West Coast Japanese community to be a healthy place, friendly to all the other Asian people.
            So this is not only my problem, but that of you and your wife too.
            You need to do something seriously.
            There are certain Japanese Americans who are connected to Japanese extremists in Japan those already making a crime.
            Some may be, most likely funded too.

            My conviction is, Japanese American community should keep themselves off from any political organization in Japan, they should stand by themselves, only stand for themselves, should not have regard to any Japanese local who has an agenda, who require you of something to have conflict against Chinese or Korean people.
            Because Japanese American are really easily convinced of a wrong idea, like you, because of their ignorance.
            What those people are telling to Japanese American is all phony, but Japanese American are usually with no means to assess what is strange, what is not strange, like you.
            So keeping off from Japanese locals will be better.
            Of course those people are not claiming “I’m a crazy Japanese right winger who’s only telling a lie” when they tend to get in touch with Japanese American.
            They are getting close to you or other Japanese American saying “I’m going to tell you the true story about Japan, as we are confused of getting abused of harassment of China or Korea, can you do something to help us?”

          • syntheticzero

            I will try, Michiko.

            I will respond to your addition: I can’t speak for every Japanese-American, but for the most part, here in the US, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese — we get along very well. We are all minorities here, so for the most part Asian-Americans stand together, because there are much bigger issues to deal with than conflicts with other Asians. Asian-Americans are invisible in many ways — we don’t get on TV very much, we are missing from movies, we live fairly well but we don’t get promoted to top positions in industry, and so on. So, for the most part, we Asian-Americans tend to get along fairly well with each other because we have to support each other.

            The tensions between Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, and so on, for the most part, to us, appear to be very strange, pointless, even absurd. However, this is partly why I find sites like this, Japan Crush, which translate just one very extremist point of view, and present it without editorial comment as though it represents the majority opinion across Japan, so damaging, because it is broadcasting a skewed sample of opinion within Japan to the world, and creating tension where there doesn’t need to be tension.

            I have many Korean friends, many Chinese friends, we don’t have any tension between us, at all. Koreans from Korea, Korean-Americans, Chinese from China, Chinese-Americans. The whole conflict between the Asian countries in Asia itself just looks ridiculous from here.

            You might know that Mike Honda, who is a Japanese-American congressman, himself has spoken out quite a bit about the comfort woman issue, and he also thinks the “agreement” mentioned in the post here is inadequate. I share that opinion.

            One last thing I wanted to say. Most Japanese-Americans came to America a long time ago — around the time of the war. The Japanese culture of my father and grandparents and great-grandparents is a much older version of Japanese culture than the one you grew up with, the one you live with in modern Japan, for better and for worse. Many people have pointed that out. My cousins (who grew up in America but do speak Japanese fluently, unlike me) tell me, for instance, that the culture of their mother, my aunt, is much more old fashioned and traditional than the culture of modern Japan (my cousin Yasuko has lived in Japan for a while, though she moved back to the United States). In many ways, that is the thing I have been trying to express to you — there is an old culture, part of which survives here in America, though it will disappear soon, which was brought here by the Japanese immigrants such as my father, and that culture is quite different from the culture of Japan today. That very old culture has some things that would surprise you.

            My father’s mother, as I said before, comes from a merchant family, but her mother was from a samurai clan (Morita); near the end of the Edo period and of course during Meiji sometimes wealthy families such as my grandmother’s family, would marry samurai families like ours who were not as wealthy, but had high status. That’s the arrangement my great-grandfather made with my grandmother’s father, who was very wealthy, and who had married a samurai caste wife. And my grandmother, too, was very traditional, very stern, and very polite, all the time. My grandparents carried with them a very old version of Japanese culture. There are things here in America which survived for a while, kind of frozen in time, because it didn’t evolve into modern times the way things changed in Japan. When I see you, and see Japan as it is today, I can see that some things are similar but some things have changed.

          • Look around, no one is going to come dealing with me like always, to make a reply to me like usual, “You are Chinese” “Stop pretending Japanese” “You are wumao”.
            Those are the replies what I am always getting, in here, or in everywhere, do you know who they are?
            Not all of those posters are Japanese American actually, but including certain of them for sure.
            I am certain that there will be no nasty web site like here anymore, a place stated for a purpose to stir up animosity among Asian people, when you try really hard to make West Coast Japanese American community to be a peaceful place, sane place, not one nutted.
            You know where this web site is based on.
            The series of web sites like here are the features definitely have an agenda.
            Firstly to stir up animosity among Asian people, next to offend Asian people, telling us “You are just herd of yellow monkeys, not going to go above white people in any future, know you meme, keep your heads low”.
            That is the agendas what this series of sites are producing.

            You can do more to contribute to peace of east Asia, and to make sure of providing a better life to your wife and your kids those may come forward.

          • syntheticzero

            It could be possible that they are Japanese-American, though I suspect most of them are either white people who want to pick fights here, or they are Japanese from Japan. Some may be Japanese-American, and if so, that’s very regrettable. However, you are totally right that such attitudes are terrible and I will, of course, do what I can to promote peaceful relationships between Asian groups here in the United States.

          • Except for myself, there’s no Japanese local posting in here, as far I remember.
            What certain Japanese American are doing to me is not your fault.
            What I’m sure is certain Japanese local right wingers are not refraining from resorting to violence anymore, so “their influence” or “their idea” should not be taken in to where you and your wife live in, should be removed. Take care.

          • syntheticzero

            You are right. If they are not Japanese from Japan, then I bet most of them are white people who are “fans” of Japan but have got a very wrong idea. Japanese-Americans are very rarely like this, we tend to be much more polite about talking about things like Japan. The idea of bragging about how great Japan is and how terrible Korea or China and so on are (especially like some people below in the comments, really awful) is very unlike most Japanese-Americans I know. I have never met one like that.

            But, if sites like this are causing any Japanese-Americans to take up these sorts of views, then it is very terrible. I will take care.

          • Okay, I understand you really have no idea of what is happening in the very place you reside in.
            I am tired of chatting with such A STUPID IDIOT.
            It’s okay, it’s okay, forget it.
            It’s too much for you.

          • syntheticzero

            Hahaha, Michiko, the funny thing is, no matter how many times you insult me or attack me, it is always just funny to me. I cannot get mad at you, because I wish you well, and I support your fight against the netouyo. I don’t get mad because I understand why you think the way you do, even when you are wrong. I don’t think you’re a “stupid idiot”, but you are not correct about many things, even though you’re right about some things, like the netouyo.

            You often accuse me of knowing nothing about Japan because I don’t live there and I only speak a little Japanese. Yet you think you’re an expert on Japanese-Americans now? Hahaha. It is inconsistent, don’t you see? I actually live here, I grew up here. You don’t know what is going on here.

            Sure, maybe there are some Japanese-Americans who support Japan’s right wing — there are Americans who support all sorts of crazy things, everywhere. But, as I tried to explain to you — the vast majority of Asian-Americans don’t care AT ALL about these fights between Japan, China, and Korea. We don’t talk about it. It doesn’t concern us. It just seems silly. I have never met ANY Asian-American who even talks about these things. I have many, many Asian-American friends — these subjects NEVER come up. We just don’t care about it. I know more about it than most Asian-Americans only because I read sites like this sometimes, but no one else cares. The Japanese-Americans who know about these issues are almost all first-generation people. Most others are not even folllowing it.

            It is difficult to tell who the people are posting here, but let’s take the example of “Alex _” who is posting below. His English is pretty good, but he constantly makes mistakes, grammatical errors, and so on, that are not typical of English native speakers. I don’t know where he is from, but he doesn’t write like an American.

            But, even though you call me a “stupid idiot”, Michiko, I wish you well. Good luck in life. Someday, I hope you can learn that not everyone who has a different opinion is quite as stupid as you seem to think. Maybe, one day, we will meet, and then we can have a different sort of conversation.

          • I have no game to play with you.
            I have nothing to learn from you, when it is something regarding my country.
            I have lot to teach you, when it is about my country.
            But it should be dealt in my language in accordance to its particularity, but I can’t, because of the condition you have.
            It’s your problem.
            There’s nothing you can teach me, when it is about Japanese affair.
            I tell you something, then you learn it, that is all.
            There will be nothing worth exchanging between us unless you understand this fundamental.
            But you look you don’t need it, so far.
            However, let it be as let it be, tell your kids that you “somehow” have certain noble ancestors, tell them “Samurai was great”, not my business, let it be unless some Japanese American come attacking you for marrying a Korean woman, not my business, let it be unless the time has come which makes you feel really wrong. Not my business.
            Your arrogance and stupidity are far beyond my comprehension.
            I really quit hoping to have some decent relationship with Japanese American, by this time, it’s enough.

          • syntheticzero

            I have learned quite a bit talking with you Michiko, even though you haven’t learned anything talking with me.

            I want you to understand that, as I’ve said many times before, I am not saying samurai were “great”, or they were all noble and honorable, and so on. Of course there were a lot of mixed things about the samurai, many terrible samurai, and many terrible things about that period.

            But I have tried to learn from you. For instance, just today I decided to look up some Japanese-American discussions of the comfort women issue, and I found out that younger Japanese-Americans like myself, Mike Honda, Kathy Masaoka, and others have spoken out in support of the comfort women, and others, who are older generation people, first- and second-generation Japanese-Americans, some of them have opposed the erection of statues supporting the comfort women. Here is an article about a Japanese-American who supports the comfort women:


            This morning, I wrote to an older Japanese-American who has spoken out against the comfort woman statue, however, to kindly ask her to reconsider her opinion. This is all because of what you asked me to do, to try to speak out to heal the relationships between Asian groups here.

            I also learned some other things talking with you. For example, I didn’t realize how common it was in Japan for people to claim that they had noble ancestors, but the family somehow had a “downfall”, and that is why they no longer had high status, and so on. Because of your reaction, I researched this quite a bit here, and I learned about this phenomenon. It’s quite interesting, because as I told you, in general people in America are not very impressed by noble ancestors, at all. Sometimes people make up stories about being related to celebrities or actors or something, but very rarely about nobility. So, it was interesting to find out that this happens a lot in Japan. No wonder you reacted to my story the way you did.

            I also learned a lot more about my particular family case, and I apologize because when I first told you the story about my family, I made some errors in telling you, because I didn’t know all the details. For instance, I said we were “farmers”, but that wasn’t right. We did have a farm, but we didn’t live like farmers. I didn’t really understand how strict the difference was between the different castes were until researching it because of you. Many samurai during the Edo period had farms … for example, see this article:


            But these samurai didn’t live as farmers, even if they had farms. We never lived as farmers, I now understand I should have explained that to you more clearly — I didn’t realize how different the castes were. Our family status was not secret, we lived openly as samurai. As I told you before, we regularly visited the Asano household wearing formal wear, Lord Asano visited our house, and so on. Of course, you might think that perhaps that isn’t true, but what is certainly true is my grandmother’s family is very wealthy. I visited them when I was a child, my great-grandfather owned many buildings in Hiroshima, and his wife, my great-grandmother, was also samurai caste. I’ve seen these buildings myself! Of course, my great-grandfather would not have married his daughter into our family if we had simply been poor farmers, particularly as his wife was also samurai caste. That just didn’t happen way back then, in the 1920’s. Japanese society was much more traditional then, everyone kept detailed family records, families knew each other for generations, especially when it comes to marriage, you couldn’t just “pretend” to have different caste ancestors.

            Our family were living as samurai, everyone knew it, even though we were living fairly modestly. It was my mistake for not explaining the story of our family clearly, because of my lack of understanding of the details of history. Anyway, I understand your reaction to my story, and this was partly my fault. But I have carefully checked everything you have told me, and you have misunderstood some things about my story, partly because I did not explain it well, and I didn’t understand the full story. I took everything you said very seriously and I checked it thoroughly.

            What IS possible, I suppose, is that our story of being the main line descendants of the Takaki lord of our castle in Hiroshima may not be true. It may be that some other branch of the family is actually the real main descendant. But it is clearly the case that we were samurai caste, we lived that way, everyone acknowledged that, and the Asano clan and our Takaki relatives thought our story of being the main line was correct. But that part is really not that important. Who cares who was the main line? That is meaningless, today.

            I am, perhaps, arrogant, it is a family trait as well 🙂 It is a character flaw, but this is something my father and grandfather and so on have had. It is a weakness of our family line, probably going back many generations. I don’t think I am entirely stupid — I did manage to go to Harvard, I have studied physics, I am a software developer today. But, perhaps I am arrogant. However, I have learned things from you, and I have tried to take what you say very seriously. I know there are many things you could teach me about Japan, but believe it or not, there are things you don’t know. It’s not your fault that you don’t know, and obviously you won’t listen to me, but it is the case that there are some things you don’t know.

            You are very passionate, which I admire, but in some ways you are a tambankan — you see things only from one side.

          • Get in touch with me only when you have got capable of Japanese in the future, at least when you can read decent Japanese written books those not provided for children.
            Until then, no need to make a reply to me. You are basically the same with other Japanese American those cursing me, offending me of “not westernized”.
            They are the victims who are forced to have an idea as if there were no racism or discrimination in USA.
            As if they were treated equally.
            Those forced to live as minority, those forced to believe that “features of the homeland of our ancestors were less worthy than that of here, as it is less progressive, petty, no need to try to interpret it precisely, no need to pay any respect to their culture, no need to take care of its language at all”.
            That is what you’ve meant all the time.
            “Do it in my way” your way is an American way, and it is the way your ancestors were forced to have, the way your ancestors passed down to you.
            I have no reason to suit your way.
            Because unlike you are, I’ve never experienced of being minority, no reason to feel petty about the features what we have.

          • syntheticzero

            That is very interesting, Michiko, I am trying to understand what you are saying. I think you are partly right.

            I think what you are saying is that you feel that because I grew up in the United States, I have adopted a view of Japanese culture from an American point of view because I am a minority, so I view it as lacking in some way, being less progressive, petty, and so on.

            I think you are right that I view Japanese culture partly from an American perspective; that is unavoidable. But in fact, though I cannot understand many aspects of Japanese culture in detail, I (and many Japanese-Americans) tend to view Japanese culture as better than American culture in many ways. We also see flaws in Japanese culture, too, but for the most part we tend to see it in a positive light. That is, both modern Japanese culture and ancient Japanese culture, we tend to view positively, though we have criticisms too.

            For instance: from my point of view, American culture is very individualistic, very selfish. My tendency is to always think of the group, of my family, friends, coworkers, almost before I think about just my individual desires. I didn’t think of this as “Japanese” when I was a child — it is just the way I grew up, in my family. When I became an adult, I realized that most Americans are far more individual-oriented than I am or than most of my family is. Then I started to realize that part of this is because my father was born in Japan and my mother’s parents grew up in Japan. Of course we have some Japanese tendencies. To me, Americans are too individualistic. I am more individualistic than Japanese in Japan, but much less so than most Americans.

            That is just one example, there are many others.

            There was a time when I thought, “Japan is superior to the United States”. But I think that’s not correct. Japan is different from the United States. It is neither superior nor inferior — it is different. And I agree, I cannot fully understand it, even if I spoke Japanese perfectly, my understanding would never be as good as a native Japanese person.

            My father reads books in Japanese about Japanese history, philosophy, and so on, all the time. Every time I visit, he and I talk about these books for a long time. He reads mostly Japanese books these days, though he has read many books in English as well. This is the closest I get to Japanese books about history or philosophy — I read in English, or I talk with my father. Of course, I will never fully understand them, not the way you can, or my father can.

            But when I read stories about some Japanese figures from the past, for instance Saionji Kinmochi, I think I can understand at least a little bit about what he was thinking during the war. His thinking seems quite similar to that of my great-grandfather. As I told you before, my great-grandfather thought the war was a terrible mistake. What I have been saying is that if the right wing wanted to look for “traditional” role models they should look to men like Saionji, not to the militarists. If they want to be proud of something, be proud of someone like that, don’t try to excuse what Japan did during the war itself.

            However, perhaps you are right that I can never fully understand Japanese culture, as an American — but I think I understand at least a little bit what Saionji was thinking, and what my great-grandfather thought. I feel I understand something of their point of view, very well.

            Again, maybe someday we can talk again, though if it has to wait until I can speak Japanese fluently, that may be a very long time. Good luck to you and I hope you have a very good rest of your day. I apologize for having troubled you in the past.

          • syntheticzero

            I wanted to write something here to correct some things I didn’t fully understand before, in case anyone comes across these posts someday. There are a bunch of things I had misunderstood which my father explained to me in more detail about our family background recently, because I didn’t really know the full story.

            Of course I have to say again that none of this is particularly important today, since the feudal system is gone, as it should be — it’s just a kind of interesting historical story about one family.

            Our family was for a brief time shogun — which I didn’t know before. I have always wondered why the Mori clan and the Asano clan protected us for all those years, but we were high ranking even though we were forced from the shogunate (I won’t get into why this occurred, but the story is well-known historically, but after we left the shogunate most Japanese historians stopped following what happened to our family).

            There isn’t as much doubt about our family history as I had thought before — our relatives, named Takaki, who had gone with the Mori clan when our family split, were in the House of Lords. Also the Asano clan knew who we were, and they were in charge of Hiroshima. We were living on a farm but we were on our own land, and had tenant farmers, and we never gave up our samurai status though we were also involved in farming. This was actually quite normal back then. Many samurai farmed — it was not unusual at the time. I was also wrong that our ancestor had made up the name Hadeishi — it came from the local area, but our actual name is Takaki, but we were asked by the Asano clan not to use that name for political reasons, so I guess my ancestor decided to choose Hadeishi as our new name,

            Also, I was not named after Mitsunaka, our ancestor, but Nobumitsu, who is a different ancestor of ours.

            My father also said that we were not a particularly intelligent family, but my great-grandfather wanted to make us smarter so he chose a girl who was the top of her class to marry my grandfather. That family agreed, they were relatively well-off and had married into samurai lines before (my grandmother’s mother I believe also came from a samurai clan). So, we got smarter at that point.

            I don’t think this story is particularly important today — but I wanted to correct these errors since I talked about all this stuff in public, above.

            It remains the case that I believe that modern-day netouyo and the right wing in Japan really do not have any understanding of what bushi or samurai were really about. It’s not what they think it was. Our family was resolutely opposed to what they did during the war, and many other former samurai were as well. It is a tragedy and a crime.

            However, all of the samurai tales are ancient history today — no longer that important. The terrible legacy of the war, however, is still relevant. And everyone needs to continually criticize it.

          • syntheticzero

            Another thing I should make clear: the phrase “Japanese-American”, as we use it here in the US, generally speaking is how we refer to people born in the United States of Japanese descent. We tend to use the term “Japanese immigrant” when referring to first-generation people.

            Of course there are some first-generation Japanese immigrants here who care about these issues between Japan, Korea, China, and so on. But the vast majority of second- and third-generation Japanese-Americans don’t follow these things. I am sure there are a few, but not very many at all.

          • Correction: sorry she is most likely your wife now not a girlfriend.

  • Smith_90125

    It’s just like the victims of pedophilia in England (re: Jimmy Savile and his group of sickos). They were promised justice but the British government sold them down the river, no compensation and no charges for the guilty. See also the Magdelene Laundries in Ireland, the South African Apartheid regime.

    And don’t think Israel is any different. The German government may have paid hundreds of millions to Israel in reparations over the decades, but the survivors of the Nazi death camps get nothing and live in poverty. They were seen as useful props to build sympathy, but are now ignored and seen as an inconvenience and a burden.

    Israel does this to its own people because the death camp survivors are a different group of jews from those who run the country. It makes me wonder if it’s the same attitude by the South Korean government.

  • As known, on Japanese web sphere, most of the posters those engaged in an activity to post those right leaning agendas are not ones free willed.
    I’ve been witnessing many clues to show it, so as ordinary others.

    As known, this time agreement is only meant to benefit Washington, which with the scheme in enforcing more excessive military operation in east Asian region in the near future.
    Abe sent his wife to Yasukuni Shrine few days after the agreement, meantime, he himself enjoyed golf.
    Intimidating Korean people like “We are not going to pay the money unless the statue is removed”.
    This is never a bearing of someone sincere.

    I hope that the victimized women are going to take back the dignity, going to feel restored, feel ease, but have no idea for a specific measure how.
    What I’m sure is that the way Shinzo Abe took by this time is not like what I hope.
    With no sincerity, with arrogance, why would they be going to feel ease.
    I am with those men below, those people praying for the Korean victims who were sacrificed of imperial Japan back then.

    Real problem is, Barack Obama feeling nothing wrong in keeping supporting THIS Japanese administration all the while, so to make this dictator spoiled more, why is that?

    • syntheticzero

      I agree completely.

    • Peninsula264356

      Michiko, you are few person in Japan able to see from Korean people perspective. Many average Japanese are afraid to speak out. In this regard not much differences between North Korea and Koreans up North.

      • That’s my honor.
        Actually, there are certain people those saying the same mostly on Twitter lately, but the thing is, you know, we are usually nothing to do with English, so rarely going to come to English fora so to tell the truth broad wide to the world, meantime, I am one of a few exceptions who have some gift in English, as this is what I can do better than what the others do since my very young age.

        I’ve been noting down the interactions I ever had with Korean posters on the internet, on my personal blog page as following
        Even not so many occasions I could have got, Korean people I ever exchanged with were all polite, nice, treated me respectfully.

        Coincidentally, lately I am just looking for Korean people who can support my Korean friend.
        There’s some Korean man in Japan that I know, who are struggling with nutted reality and injustice that he’s been facing up in Japan, standing up to try to make a better future for their next generation.
        He’s not so good at English so I am looking for someone Korean instead of him.
        I am witnessing all the injustice meant for Korean residents in Japan for recent years, but not able to have a clout to make things right, so I thought if having a connection with Korean people outside Japan may be a key for him and his folks to make difference.
        As far I see, they, the permanent Korean residents in Japan are generally very isolated, disconnected from other Korean people all over the world.

        Meantime, he also needs help of Korean people over the world, with his anti-racism action that he’s involved with now, while looks pretty shying to get an interaction with oversea Korean people for his first time.
        If only you are interested in, please get in touch with him at

        Twitter @koreanpower317

        or his personal web site on Ameba
        when you have time.
        He’s capable of Hangul and Japanese, I’m capable of little English and Japanese.
        Following is his message to all the Korean people outside Japan, got his permission to post on wherever Korean people who may help him are watching at.
        He’s a good man, who should be treated right.

  • Johnny King

    Wow….such hateful comments from the japs. Read the real history books…..not the fake fictions that the jap government has written in their school books. The truth is, what the japs did to Korean, Chinese, and other nations is nothing short of brutal, perverse, illegal, inhumane atrocities that can be classified as war crimes. Why is it so difficult to apologize? And yes….all these victims….yes….victims need to be compensated. The utter arrogance of the Japanese is disgusting, and their past economic success seems to have inflated their egos. However, these right wing crazy kamakaze Japanese patriots will soon wake up and realize that their arrogance is nothing but a facade…..a facade to hide their deviant perverse nature….

    Btw….I am venting my anger as I watched ignorant Japanese protestors yell obscenities at old comfort women….some calling them whores. I could tell you that if I was there….those men would have their tongues cut out of their filthy mouths. I am by no means anti Japanese…. I have a very close Japanese friend who is like a brother to me.

  • Some Japanese American man who’s clinging to a “noble origin idea” is a sorry feature, really pathetic.
    His ancestors were nothing wrong in being born to be poor farmers, peasants, practically located in the lowest place in those days caste pyramid, while technically not, in Japanese 小作人、水呑み百姓.
    They might have been frowned in their graves now when their descent is bound by such a stupid idea for all of his life time.
    They were the people who spent their entire life time for crawling in a rice field, and there’s nothing wrong in being so.
    Just accept “what they were” and have respect to the life style that they took when they had no other option at all, that’s what a good Japanese man is supposed to do.

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