SK President Criticizes Japan At Meeting With US Congress

South Korean president Park Geun Hye visits the US, giving a speech at Congress.

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South Korean President, Park Geun Hye is currently in the United States meeting President Obama and other key members of the government.

In her address to the US Congress, given in English, she thanked the US for its enduring co-operation in maintaining security in South Korea over the past sixty years, as well as discussing South Korea’s economic future and relations with the North. As her speech drew to a close, she referred to what she calls “Asia’s paradox”, the idea that despite increasing economic dependency, political and security co-operation has shown little progress due to disagreements over their shared history.

In the Japanese media, this reference to troubled relations between East Asian states has been taken as a direct criticism of the Japanese government’s firm stance on its narration of Japan’s colonial past.

This article from the Yomiuri Shimbun was the most shared article on Facebook among Japanese users, and attracted thousands of tweets.

From Yomiuri Online:

President Park Geun Hye Criticizes Japan As “Asia’s Paradox” During US Meeting

On May 8, South Korean President Park Geun Hye gave a speech in English at a joint session between the Upper and Lower Houses and the Senate in the United States.

Regarding the regional situation in North East Asia, President Park indicated that there was constant conflict over the “history issue”, thus criticising Japan while avoiding singling out any nation by name.

During a meeting between the two leaders on April 7, following on from President Obama’s statement that “Japan ought to have a correct understanding of history”, he voiced a sense of uncertainty over the Abe administration.

While President Park indicated that economic interdependence between nations in North East Asia is increasing, little progress was being made in the areas of political and security relations due to the continuing conflict surrounding historical issues. President Park termed this current state of affairs as “Asia’s paradox”, and criticised the Japanese government’s understanding of history with the phrase, “Those who are bind to the past cannot see the future”.

Comments from Twitter:

Akira Sakurai:

Brown-noser. Park’s talking about the concept that when looking toward the future, the discord with Japan will tend to get worse due to differences in our understanding of history, but that is the way things are, and I don’t suppose there’s any other way of saying it. She probably should have said that Japan has been right all along.

無能執事:

Isn’t she embarrassed to say “Those who are blind to the past history cannot see the future”?

家電量販店:

So does she think that if she criticises Japan so soon after the inauguration, her government will go on lasting for a long time?

のんのん:

How dare she make a speech, boldly waving about that fabricated history. I can’t believe it.

わ:

Seriously, just go do something with your other insane friends in the Far East! Has Japan ever criticised you lot in public? We haven’t, have we? It’s only you lot who keep barking on about outrageous things.

GOEB03:

What the fuck is this old Korean hag.

DC:

To use an important meeting with the President of the United States on such pointless things…when there were things like the North Korean issue and the FTA that they should have been talking about…is she stupid?

セイユ:

From now on, it’s better that we don’t involve ourselves with South Korea, North Korea, or China.

ルナパパ(バルーンモーリー):

Hah, all that when they don’t even recognise the paradox of their own country.

オシシ仮面:

So the correct understanding of history is one in which we kowtow to Korea for the rest of eternity? Give it a fucking rest.

DTK:

Nah, come on, Park is amazing! “Those who are blind to the past cannot see the future”– if so, then Korea has no future. She went to all the trouble of this self-reflection in a meeting with the American president w!

連邦軍 @へたれ極貧 ほぼノートレーダー:

Throughout almost every period in history, the Korean peninsula has been a vassal state of China, and was politically, socially, and culturally enslaved, and now it’s a vassal state of the US. The country is just a barking pet dog, will the day ever come when it’s a real independent state?

gezigezi:

The stupid thing about South Korea, is that it insists that colonial domination was a bad thing. Back then, every advanced country worth its salt had colonies. Obviously, that includes America. Are all those countries your enemies?

burung_biru:

☆Yup, it’s true, there is definitely a “paradox” in Asia, the sort where any debt of kindness to Japan for economic aid is forgotten.

g1123:

She’s no different from the old women in my neighbourhood who go around bitching about stuff! While the Japanese government is saying we should handle it like adults, lies are being made into the truth. We have to deal with this before it’s too late!

soilsone:

The foundation of Korea’s present economic development is based on the social infrastructure built during the colonial period by Japan and on the economic aid from Japan in the postwar period. Furthermore, Korea is built on the flows of pioneering technology that came from Japan.

[email protected]:

Well, if this is what the leader of the country is like….let’s just sever relations with them as soon as we can!

ひさ:

So it’s getting interesting now〜
If America starts complaining about us because of this, we’ll be a sakoku [closed nation] again.

みゃ~男:

So might we possibly ask that your researchers and students in Japan return home? If you’re going to twist everything, then it’s better we’re straight forward about things.

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  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    “Isn’t she embarrassed to say “Those who are blind to the past history cannot see the future”?” says the guy who is blind to past history…

    It’s not even the blind leading the bind, it’s the blind trying to fight each other over what color the sun is. Clearly you can see how much Obama is dreading the prospect of getting involved in the sea of clusterfuck that is East Asian politics. Just look at his face.

    • Hypocrite

      BITCHEZ!

      Koreans are bitches! They massacred North Koreans. Today are blaming Japan to get charity. ke ke ke

      The Japanese are so brainwashed that they think the rest of the world is brainwashed. Contradictory opinion. Japan is under US military occupation since 1945, so why the americans allows this anti-korean-chinese brainwashing? They know something we don’t know? Japanese war crime is a frauds.

      • Hypocrite

        I’m not an Anglophon (poor english)

        • Hypocrite

          Notice how South Korea isn’t being criticized for these recent spats but Japan is. Reason? Korea is a docile dog for Western interest. Koreans are anti-Chinese, anti-Japanese, anti-Asian, pro-Zionist, pro-Christian, pro-White, pro-European, pro-Western. Good bitch.

          • dk2020

            lmao .. all of sudden you love china and hate the west? smfh .. chinese are hella pissed over the senkaku island disputes and the rape of nanking .. you really don’t know shit braw ..

          • anti 38fis

            hope you end up decapitated

          • Alice S

            I am also hoping that! Or that you would die a painful death waiting for a hospital room due to a shortage of doctors!

          • KMF

            japan is a docile dog and you just impotently defend them because you can’t defend your own people. Japan’s been a bitch all its history, and only acheived temporary and miniscule success when everyone else was sleeping (ww2, korea-japan war, economic ‘success’ that was directly and indirectly engineered by US to create a capitalist bulwark against communists which is now useless and hence fall of japanese economy). When any even slightly alert enemy stares them down, japanese just puss out like they always do and tries to pretend it never happened.

            You and japs should get along real nice since you both are bitch status, as you have demonstrated clearly LOL

        • dk2020

          dafuq a anglophon cuzz?

      • ralt620ij

        yawn

      • Alice S

        If you are trying to practice English & taking advantage of free ‘teachers’ to read your work… um your work is so *** that ppl don’t know what you were actually originally intending to write.

  • Butsu

    Usually, isn’t it said that Japan does not dwell on the past and just look to the future though? Acting like past deeds doesn’t matter? So how are they bind to the past? (edit: read that Japanese now….shouldn’t it be blind? If so, then it makes hell of a lot more sense)

    Anyway this is just like pissing in a sea of piss.

    • Rutim

      A piss during joint of US parliament which made it even more hilarious. I can imagine her getting applause when talking about North Korea and how harsh they will deal with them and giving them history lessons, what they should think with leaving everyone in …

      Why bring it there? She’s like that Korean journalist who irritated Patrick Ventrell of US DOS few days ago.

    • Rutim

      A piss during joint of US parliament which made it even more hilarious. I can imagine her getting applause when talking about North Korea and how harsh they will deal with them and giving them history lessons, what they should think with leaving everyone in …

      Why bring it there? She’s like that Korean journalist who irritated Patrick Ventrell of US DOS few days ago.

      • Red Kloud

        In fact, history is one issue where the U.S. and Korea see eye to eye, so these type of remarks regarding history are always well received in America and the rest of the international community for that matter. So your claim that crickets were heard instead of applause regarding these recent remarks is something you just pulled out of your ass, cuz we all know that did not happen.

        Did you already forget that Obama reprimanded Abe during his recent visit specifically about issues pertaining to history? Did you already forget that the U.S. congress UNANIMOUSLY passed a resolution in 2007 demanding that Japan follow through with properly compensating the surviving comfort women and properly apologizing to them as well? The resolution also calls on Japan to make the education of comfort women a mandatory part of their educational curriculum. Congress taking such extraordinary measures to condemn Japanese revisionism really speaks volumes as to which version of history they support.

        When will you guys realize that Japan stands ALONE in regards to their interpretation of 20th century history? No one subscribes to the Japanese version of events and I would welcome you to name one country that does if you believe I am wrong. The longer Japan remains in denial about the FACTS relating to their numerous atrocities, the more isolated Japan becomes among the intellectual community and the more their credibility is questioned when it comes to the subject. And no, not everyone else in the world is brainwashed as you guys so frequently like to claim.

        • Rutim

          >In fact, history is one issue where the U.S. and Korea see eye to eye,
          so these type of remarks regarding history are always well received in
          America and the rest of the international community for that matter.

          Yeah. That would be awesome. Korea shoould really take the stance of US who didn’t intervene about annexion of Korea in 1910. Just like no one did around the world.

          >Did you already forget that Obama reprimanded Abe during his recent visit specifically about issues pertaining to history?

          What Obama did?

          • Red Kloud

            Your reply has absolutely zero to do with the subject I addressed. Yes the U.S. did not intervene and yes Koreans are well aware of that fact and accept it as such, just as the U.S. does not deny it. So what exactly are you babbling about?

            In regards to Obama chiding Abe…google is your friend.

          • dk2020

            it was actually because of the Taft-Katsura agreement in 1905 between the US and Japan that the US didn’t do anything .. the US didn’t have to drop the atomic bombs on Japan either to end WW2 ..

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft%E2%80%93Katsura_Agreement

          • Morricane

            Why should any nation have intervened for *no gain*?
            Why made an enemy out of the most modernized country in East-Asia for the sake of a backwards country? That would have been ridiculously stupid.
            The only ones who could have gained something were China and Russia, who already had lost their wars against Japan at that point in time.

            Anyway, the entire legitimization of Imperialism (and, subsequently, colonization) was founded on culturally superior countries “taking care of” those that are not. The fallacy is that the entire question of who is superior and who is not was entirely based on the subjective standards set by those “superior” countries…ie. the more European you are, the more equal you are…

            Korea realized the necessity to become a modern nation-state to retain indepence quite late; and their attempts at reform met massive resistance from their own power elites who were afraid to lose their political power.

  • Mighty

    That’s not being a good guest. I’m sure Obama isn’t refilling her tea cup.

  • chucky3176

    So what did she say which is wrong? She’s correct. Due to Japan trying to turn back the clock to 1930 Japan, cooperation in East Asia is in the pits.

    Japanese are really obsessed with Koreans these days. They are like stalkers, clinging onto every word, and every little actions from Korea, and get offended with every single little thing, real or imagined. lol.. For instance, they’re even very angry because Korea puts more importance on ties with China, than with Japan.

    http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130507-00000115-jij-soci

    • chucky3176

      on further reading, she didn’t even mention Japan by name. Yet that’s enough to cause Japanese to see red.

      • Makoto

        Where the hell are you based chucky and why so much hatred towards your dad? Give back all the money and the technologies you stole from us…. you copy cat.

        • … said the Western world to Japan.

          • terriblemovie

            Japan copies American and European technology. Uses American and European guns, cannons and boats to invade the rest of Asia. Then claims that the rest of asia would not have been able to “modernize” without their help.

            LOL

            I would understand a teeny tiny bit(not really) if they invented those technologies but they didn’t. All they did was plagiarize western tech and attack their peaceful neighbors with it. Yet they somehow believe they are superior because they plagiarized first.

          • Hypocrite

            The main culprit is in fact Matthew C Perry.

            Perry embarked from Norfolk, Virginia for Japan, in search of a Japanese trade treaty. As he arrived, Perry refused to abide to Japanese demands to leave. Perry returned in February 1854 with twice as many ships. Perry signed the trade treaty of Kanagawa on March 31, 1854. The trade agreement was made with the Shogun, the de facto ruler of Japan.

          • Hypocrite

            In addition, U.S. robbed Yamashita’s gold and become rich. http://rense.com/general49/sece.htm

          • KMF

            Drop in the bucket. Nice try at attempting to portray japanese as ‘forever innocent pure victims’

            LOL

          • Alice S

            Japps, victims? My top wish!

          • Edohiguma

            Wrong. If it wasn’t Perry, somebody else would have done it. Plus, you’re completely forgetting how the shogunate was already having massive issues at the point Perry appeared. Your lack of historic knowledge is amazing.

          • Zero

            Firstly, Chinese women were raped by British sailors. Secondly, the Chinese elite (mestizos) joined with British forces to boycott Japan. Finally, Japanese Illuminists (Emperor Meiji) joined forces with Europeans and China was defeated forever. Therefore Chinese are not innocent victims.

          • KMF

            Hamamoto get the fuck off this site.

          • Zero

            First, improve your English skills.

          • KMF

            BWAHAHAHAHAHA

            Dumbfuck jap kid first should watch his manners. Some ‘English skills’.

          • Dave

            What is with all of you? It went from semi-intelligent to name calling…By the way Zero, do you even know what a zionist is? I’m sure that the Chinese are the furthest thing from a zioinst. “Samsung x Apple”? What’s your point? That’s just two businesses fighting over a lucrative market, that happens all the time, by the way Samsung’s Korean.

          • KMF

            Ask this kid. Did some nips escape from 2ch again?

          • The Truth

            I’m not Japanese, I’m from Antartica, South Pole.

          • chucky3176

            Even their famed Sony walkman and transistor radios were copy cats of Western inventions. There’s nothing Japan created out of the blue, everything was a copy of something. Nothing wrong with making improvements on a prior inventions, but I mean… can you seriously accuse and charge others of what you have done yourself?

          • You obviously don’t pay attention to medical or even tech news from JPN at all.

          • KMF

            They try to spin every little ‘success’ as if it is a world-changing innovation while it’s really nothing more then a footnote compared to DAILY innovations that west makes because it’s a given other people are better then japs.

            They reek of cowardly inferiority complex everytime they open their mouth like this ‘makoto’ boy 🙂

          • chris

            wait, so every automaker in today’s world must be copycats of Germany right? and so by your argument, which also has nothing to do with the political issue between Japan and S. Korea, if its not an original, they’re just copycats who cannot take pride they’re development of material goods?

            so according to you and terriblemovie, the world copies America because they invented the first airplane. and all the other countries couldnt “modernize” within aviation without their help. and that since the numerical system that the world uses was invented by Muslims, every mathematical advancements and discoveries are all fabricated copies!?!??

            that also means Samsung, Hyundai, and every technologic companies are all copycats right and they should not be able to accuse other companies for patent violations??? please. thats the dumbest argument I have ever heard. oh, how underdeveloped and close-minded your minds are. i feel bad for you guys.

          • KMF

            Japanese don’t listen until someone runs a train over their women and chains them up to watch with a grip on their throat.

            Speaking of rape, we should build a shrine to all the brave foreigners and soldiers who raped and killed japanese, and have our politicians pay yearly homage to those men for their valiant act in our war.

            It’s really not hard to understand why korea and china could be so angry at japan. The essence of japanese attitude has always been ‘we gave you some money, we said sorry, now FUCK OFF’. No amount of apologies or empty words will change the fact that 1: japanese don’t really feel they have committed a crime or don’t even understand what it means to really do so, 2: therefore no asian will ever pass up a chance to give back hundred fold to japs for what they did.

          • Edohiguma

            “The Japanese” haven’t committed a crime. You#re holding people responsible who weren’t even born then. That’s called Sippenhaftung. The Nazis were very fond of it.

          • KMF

            That’s some mouth you got there. Very typical half-inspired kid with some frustration issues. Your level of know-it-all about the japanese role in the war as well as many other issues sound exactly like what an over-fed, over-gassed foreign fool would say. Your level of half-assed ‘knowledge’ and ‘professional’ opinions is at best laughable thanks to how ignorantly narrow and limited they are. It’s just as they say about ignorants: Empty bowl always clangs the hardest.

            Also, tell us all about where the big bad Americans touched you so much to turn you into this little bitch who always squeals about ‘american’t’. If you think you know anything about Americans and japanese in equal measure thanks to some kind of ‘experience’ you think you had, as well as anyone else in the world you are tragically making a fool out of yourself.

            For once, shut your damn mouth instead of bitching like a whore in heat. Who the hell fucked you to pieces in your smart life that you actually think you are qualified to talk about all these issues like you know something?

          • Zero

            Koreans are little bitch. Also, tell us all about where the big bad Chinese-zionist slave touched you so much
            to turn you into this little bitch who always squeals about Japan. i.e. Samsung x Apple.

            Don’t forget the devastating capability of North Korea’s artillery against Seul. Communist bitch!

          • KMF

            LOL this little jap bitch. Your women are so fucked by everyone else in the world they just spread their legs so easily.

            Always ‘koreans’ Ever wonder why your women would rather let korean men fuck them instead of mouthy spineless fucks like you?

          • Zero

            South Korea: A Superpower of Sex Industry
            http://www.ibtimes.com/south-korea-thriving-sex-industry-powerful-wealthy-super-state-1222647

            Furthermore, South Korean prostitutes working in other countries have reached 80,000 – over 100,000 people.

            The prostitution industry in South Korea 韓国の売春産業
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3s71wpSYyc

          • KMF

            You japs have been designated as the number 1 offender of trafficked and exported whores in south and east asia and amongst nations with gdp higher than 1 tn dollars.

            You are also famous for exporting whores to other nations, and also spreading your legs for foreigners.

            Your sources are weakly researched and nothing more than your own delusions fed to each other. My source is the UN.

            Weak jap should learn better before trying to open your mouth.

          • Zero

            Proof?

          • KMF

            google human trafficking in japan

            The report is directly from the UN.

            LOL this dumbass jap bitch

          • KMF

            Also bein a dumb bitch and using different names don’t matter when anyone can tell your pathetic speech. Check yourself nip bitch

          • Zero
          • KMF

            BWAHAHAHAHA this stupid jap cunt can’t even make a good story. Those don’t even have anything to do with Dubai or Latin America.

            Your bitches are spreading their legs daily for some good cock from everyone else but japs. Anyone fucks jap bitches because they are easily and loose, just like #1 cum dumpsters of east asia.

          • The Truth

            If you are searching for Chinese women in Dubai, then go to these clubs. http://allaboutwomennew.blogspot.com.br/2011/05/tips-on-how-to-find-women-in-dubai.html

            They are there to make money and find men. I have personally met several attractive young Chinese women in Dubai.

          • Zero

            Japanese atrocity survivors and their American liberators. Eternal debt with White man? You’re fucked up now. bwahahahaha

          • KMF

            Fucked jap goes on and on about how not-fucked his people are. What the fuck does samsung and apple have to do with japs? Keep your nose out of things that are none of your business jap.

          • Zero

            Samsung was humiliated by Apple. Samsung looks like a Chinese name, pirate products. bwahahaha

          • Alice S

            EU & US should be paid DAMAGES for the breach of intellectual property! It would totally help with the EURO CRISIS LOL!

          • chons are creepy!

            lol, Whatever you say, I know you are just a “baka chon”
            baka chons are not trusted in the world, cuz we all know you tell lies every time when you say a word.

          • besudesu

            Sock puppetry is against the rules of this forum and you have been posting under different names. You are also using offensive, racist terms intended to incite others. That won’t be tolerated here. You are welcome to engage in discussion and debate on this forum, but any further contraventions will result in a ban.

          • KMF

            So true!

            Japanese are cowards who retreat and bitch and moan at the first sight of any real threat. It’s no wonder their own yakuza (which are over 30 percent korean btw) are getting fucked in their own turf in japan by chinese triads and korean street thugs.

            Japs should just learn to watch their mouths if they know what’s good for them.

          • Alice S

            If I were a Japp I would never say anything that was not nice.

          • The Truth

            Obviously Chinese and Koreans are slave of Anglo-American-Nazi-Zionists

            http://jewishfaces.com/china.html

          • KMF

            Just remember this: Next time a US soldier rapes a japanese woman (or men not that there’s much difference in balls), just say it was a ‘highly unfortunate and regrettable’ incident and tell them we are going to change the records in 4 months and pretend it never happened ^__^

            Karma’s a bitch!

        • dk2020

          lmao .. konnichiwa chichi

        • anti 38fisst

          would happily smash your cranium in

        • KMF

          Dumb jap boy got too much mouth and no idea what you’re talking about.

          Japan always stole everything from others. Back during the sino-centric period until modern times, japanese language (using chinese characters, modifying early chinese into japanese alphabet and largely influenced by a japanese monarch who wanted to ‘civilize’ japan), pottery (chinese and korean), mainland martial arts and philosophy (kung fu, calligraphy, anything ‘cultured’), government bureaucracy (chinese tang influence), education system (chinese origin), shintoism (mix of Buddhism and Confucianism), and much more. You only tried to modify it and corrupt it a little and call it ‘japanese’.

          In modern times you prostituted yourself wholesale to the west and rest of the world so much japan is known as the cum dump of east asia. You use western tech, western education, western know-how, western system of government and philosophy, wester slang and language, western style of dressing, architecture, EVERYTHING PLAGIARIZED and then try to add some vapid and childish ‘japanese character’ to try and create a non-existent ‘pride’ for your pathetic people who don’t have what it takes to go toe to toe with anything that even remotely presents a REAL challenge.

          You should spread your legs more and invite foreigners to improve your culture. You have been prostituting yourself for the last 3000 years, why change now? ^^

          • The Truth

            all useless junk

          • The Truth

            Egypt was more sophisticated

          • The Truth

            1. Buddhism and Confucianism

            2. Chinese characters

            3. Chinese martial arts and philosophy

            Superior culture?

            Chinese Documentary Exposes Mao-Era ‘Juvenile Auschwitz’
            http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/36071-chinese-documentary-exposes-mao-era-juvenile-auschwitz/

            (NaturalNews) When it comes to lying, cheating, deceiving and scamming people about their food, no country is more accomplished than China, home of the toxic melamine infant formula scandal and foods contaminated with high levels of heavy metals.

            And the simple truth behind all this is that China is a immoral nation.. Religion is outlawed in China, and as a result there is absolutely no moral compass taught to the Chinese people. I’m not saying religion is the answer to society’s ills, but at least at a basic level, religion teaches a moral compass that simply doesn’t exist in Chinese culture.

            Because of this lack of a moral compass, it is routine in China to find a street vendor of so-called “stinky tofu” (an actual food item served on the street) using sewer water as their water source. It’s routine to find foods from china colored with toxic ink to make them appear more valuable. (For example, sesame seeds are often doused with toxic black ink to sell them as black sesame, which is more costly than white sesame). It is routine for chicken egg producers in China to feed their chickens with toxic petrochemical food coloring chemicals in order to alter the color of the eggs.

            In China, the idea of killing thousands of babies in order to make extra money on infant formula (milk contaminated with melamine) isn’t even abhorrent. It’s normal. The idea of cheating your customer with toxic meat is commonplace. Cheating, dishonest and deceit are the norm — not the exception — in China.

            Remember, China is a zionist-communist military dictatorship — essentially a police state. They do not have a Bill of Rights. China is a country of tremendous government evil, and that’s exactly where Obama is trying to push America — into a state of moral relativism where those who believe in moral values are attacked, demonized and eventually even arrested.

            A culture of death and deception destroys every corner of human society.
            This is about a culture of death and deception. China, after all, is a nation where organs are routinely harvested from political prisoners and where people are routinely tortured, mutilated alive and executed for speaking out against their government. If all this information is new to you, that’s because the press never reports any of these inconvenient truths about China. Where there is no moral compass, there are no limits to the indignity and injustice of human behavior.

            So don’t be surprised to find China selling rats meat, or sewer rat burgers, or even McRatguts with special dipping sauces made from human feces. In a culture devoid of all liberties, morals and human dignity, the products and food supply will inevitably reflect the death and deception that characterizes the culture.

          • The Truth

            Superiority?

            Give me a break, idiot

          • The Truth

            Results! Results are what matter in the end, idiot!

            Confucius says: The process is what matters, not the result..

          • The Truth

            LOL!

          • KMF

            lol ‘idiot’ ‘idiot’ learn some proper words fool

          • KMF

            LOL this chidlish jap bitch. ‘lol!’ how old are you little fuck?

            You steal copy and modify chinese characters to form your bastardized language. Your ‘prince’ and monarch was so used to sucking chinese off for some knowledge he prostituted your whole nation with Confucianism, taoism, and Buddhism brought from the mainland.

            Your people are too afraid to even confront their criminals on your own streets, and your own gangs are being pushed around in the middle of tokyo by foreign gangs.

            Check history, not your textbooks. Your ‘results’ are now about becoming china’s bitch. Spread your legs more!

          • The Truth

            Check history, not your communist textbooks. Your ‘results’ are now about becoming reality. Spread your legs more!

            1. A Hong Kong financial analyst says China has out-Greeked the Greeks and Cypriots.

            Larry Lang, chair professor of Finance at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said in a lecture that the Chinese regime is in a serious economic crisis—on the brink of bankruptcy. He coined the phrase: “In China, every province is a Greece.” MOREHERE

            Western companies are only interested in the bottom line. They don’t give a hoot about working conditions of their chinese workers; nor are they much interested in the American workers they threw out into the street. Unfortunately, what goess aroun comes round: many of the workers they dumped in Western World can barely afford their Chinese cheap products. Even the Chinese forced labor cheap stuff is becoming too expensive for people on unemployment, unemployed or working two minimum wage jobs to stay afloat.

            2. Many Chinese oligarchs are leaving the country.

            There are an alarming number of business suicides in China. Many Chinese oligarchs are leaving the country. In an article detailing China’s economic crisis, Henry Zeng says that China has a deficit in its balance of payments for the first time since 1998. He also notes the increased tendency of wealthy Chinese to leave the country:

            Even more telling is the growing trend of wealthy individuals (each with over $1.6 million) leaving China in the past few years. According to the SAFE report, over 16% of the country’s one million wealthy individuals have emigrated, with a projected 44% intending to follow suit. Many of them have already sent their children abroad, and some have invested heavily in U.S. real estate. MOREHERE

            3. Massive Opposition

            For instance, Li Keqiang, who was installed as Chinese premier, talked about a self-imposed revolution where the nation returned to a market based economy. Li acknowleges that moving from a central controlled economy to a market based one would result in massive opposition.

            Are we looking at another upheaval in China, and if so, is this why many wealthy individuals and families want to jump ship? Looking at the nation’s federal governing body, analysts note that 90 of the delegates are each worth over a billion dollars. These wealthy oligarchs are looking to Li to defend their interests, suppress opposition.

            They are clearly confident that Xi will use his position as head of the military and the police state apparatus to defend their interests and suppress any opposition from the working class. MOREHERE

            Once again, China may be on the verge of revolution. The new elite wants a greater share of chinese wealth and is willing to use the nation’s military to counter domestic opposition. And the small farmers, working class and poor want to survive.

            4. Like the American Dream

            Like the American Dream, the Chinese Dream may be a boon for elites, but a graphic nightmare for the working class and family farmers. Xi is looking at a three-headed dragon: revolution, war and economic catastrophe. As John Chan notes:

            The “Chinese Dream” will quickly turn into a nightmare for the Chinese workers and small farmers. Xi’s more assertive diplomacy will only heighten the danger of war with Japan, Philippines, and other and above all, the US. At home, pry.o-market restructuring will seek to make the wages of Chinese workers “competitive” with those in other cheap labour platforms, such as India, Indonesia, Africa and Vietnam, thus deepening their already unbearable poverty.

            China remains a secretive country with a tightly controlled media and economy. If there is economic trouble in the provinces, Chinese leaders aren’t about to announce it to the world.

            http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/china-is-bankrupt-in-china-every-province-is-a-greece-and-the-elite-are-jumping-ship-2604692.html

          • KMF

            BWAHAHAHA now this is just pathetic. Jap do yourself a favor and shut that mouth of yours instead of spewing childish shit and desperate fantasies to try and convince yourself that china’s weaker than japan.

            Your nation and its economic growth was only possible because other nations were too distracted by cold war and internal political unrest while you had United States babying you from 1950s to create an anti-communist bulwark, giving money, aid, food, and know how in addition to favorable trade deals. Now that US has no more use for some uppity japs, your economy immediately plunged to continuous recessions and lost decades starting from 1980s, just as the communist bloc was disappearing.

            China with its 1.3 bn people can easily kill of japs and turn every single japanese women into chinese cum dumps. They can do this economically, politically, and militarily.

            Your desperate spewing fantasies about ‘chinese weakness’ is pathetically weak and desperate. Being a bitch by upvoting your own comments is also pathetic. You got some weak nerves and no back bone, no wonder the chinese and koreans look down on you japs.

          • The Truth

            They can do this economically, politically, and militarily.

            Who wins? Israel vs Muslims. UK vs China.

            Overpopulation as a factor of conflict: 1.3 billion people can be easily wiped out through through a super-pandemic flu event.

            Chinese military force: How many ships are there in the world? The Chinese navy can carry 1 million soldiers? Japan has a lot of experience in naval warfare. Russo-Japanese War. Japanese pirates (Wokou).

            Economically: How foreign investors in China will react to war?

            Politically: China will be recognized as a Yellow Fifth Reich?

            I am impressed with your intelligence. Too smart. pathetic

          • KMF

            HAHAHAHA Really pathetic, level of 4th grader who just got out of a ‘national history class’. Jap bitch really don’t know when they are shoveling shit in their own mouths.

            Chinese and triads are already well placed in japan. There are at least 3 million foreigners in japan who love to rape jap bitches.

            No one will care if japan in militarily or economically attacked since US is getting tired of babying your bitch asses. With abe and bitches like you mouthing off, no one will care if the security agreement is ruled null and void.

            Pathetic japanese navy was bitch fucked by Americans and its land forces were destroyed by chinese and russians and US who took half a million surrendering cowards. Chinese can easily shut down trade with japan while your businesses cower and kowtow before the chinese economic pressure.

            Foreign investors don’t care about japan as much as china and they would love to see chinese turning over japanese assets on the international market. No one cares about politics of china if japan’s the only one who bring it upon themselves because fool kids like you don’t know what the fuck you need to do with that mouth.

            This level of arugment is a jap level. Take your pathetic mouth back to 2ch and scram kid.

          • The Truth

            However, the Russians, Indians and Japanese, all countries share borders with China, have already formed secret military alliances. They are not going to go along with plans to offer world control to China. The globalists will only lift China up until they get a chance to betray them.

            Referring to Japan, the Globalists (Nazi-Zionists and Communists) really hates Japan because it is the one remaining nation, as well as Russia and Iran, able to present a significant obstacle – culturally and socially – to their plans for absolute world domination, who still refuses to destroy itself with Zionification, Sovietization, third world immigration and free trade agreements, etc.

            Anyone who has read the coverage of Japan – or Russia and Iran or even India – in the global media over the past decade with a keen eye will have noticed that most stories come back to those same themes: “Xenophobic,” “War criminals”, “Weirdos”, “Protectionists”. They need follow the agenda and sell out its own people like America and China.

            Yeah, Japanese seem to close their mind and not open the eyes to the world. The ability to compete with their astute zionist neighbours, like China and Korea is very poor. Basically the japanese fear the changing world.

            It occurred to me a while back that North Korea has been a lab to test NWO ‘organizational’ techniques on a mass scale under real conditions for quite some time. Wanna know the future of China? Study your brother NK.

            Nobody likes “big Chinese government” anymore than “Globalists”. Secret and massive purge with satanic murders against them are coming.

          • The Truth

            English is not my native language, also I am not Japanese

          • KMF

            This jap is as pathetic as it gets. NWO? ‘Zionist’? ‘Globalist agenda’? There’s nothing more amusing than a jap who thinks it knows something copying western conspiracy theories when he can’t even get those conspiracy theories right. ‘Sovietization’ and ‘Globalization’ is not one in the same you stupid fuck.

            So much more pathetic now you are using guest accounts to upvote your own comments. PATHETIC. Get off this site and go bitch at your parents or something

          • KMF

            Oi, jap you are getting fuckin pathetic little bitch

          • Dave

            You make it sound like a fact, but I really have problems swallowing your logic. It makes me wonder if you have ever really been to China or understand the way that the Chinese society has evolved.

            Your first point has flaws, considering that the world is in a chronic recession you can’t say China is on the verge of bankruptcy. Actually, if it was, the world would go into a depression (what a shock it would be to the system if the number two economy was on the verge of collapse).

            Two, your point might be true, but it really doesn’t hold any value. It’s more or less the rich wanting to rub shoulders with the other rich. The real power is still with the politburo, not the rich. The rich are actually dependent on the government if they want to succeed in the Chinese market.

            Third, revolt in China won’t be based on an ideological or on wealth. It’ll probably be more of an ethnic shakedown than anything.

            Fourth, your point is basically that China will pursue a race to the bottom economic development model. The problem with that is, China’s too big of a market. It really doesn’t matter about the cheap labour anymore for the Chinese; the eastern part (the industrialized area) has become pretty modern with a developing IT industry. Most companies are pursuing a business model of China plus 1.

            On a side note, I think both you and KMF have to cool off. Your banter is absolutely ridiculous. It’s devolving into name calling, and essentially, hate speech.

          • The Truth

            I’m not Japanese, I’m from Antartica

          • KMF

            Fuckin useless posting with different names. How pathetic can this jap get?

        • KMF

          Give back all the money, tech, and knowhow you stole from the world and go back to crawling around the dirt like a good island monkey 🙂

          • Until where ever the hell you came from can host a city even remotely close to the equivalent of Tokyo (the world’s largest) or win Nobel Peace Prizes in science and technology, ain’t nobody gonna be bout your bullshit. When it comes to outlook its always labeled as Japan/Asia. Now why is that?

            Ironically what’s really happening here is that once again demonstrates that White people are keeping all you apart. You guys in all of Asia need to come together and compete against the West for the sake of all your futures.

          • KMF

            You bitch and moan about your bull shit like crying about being black in America is the worst thing in the world.

            Write this shit down, boy. Black people overseas laugh in your face when you bring that type of attitude somewhere like it means something. Where ever the fuck you are mouthing off from, you better check yourself before you think you know anything about Tokyo or East Asia better than I do. Ironically, you display the most pathetic stereotypes of American people better than any whites I know – childish, bitchy, mouthy, and think they know some shit and world owes them a favor.

            Get the fuck off of that 12 year old blame-the-white-man bitch fest and get your attitude checked before you write checks with your mouth your ass can’t cash in.

      • Alice S

        Did she not mention it out of embarrassment or because no one wanted to hear it floating in the air? LOL.

    • Rutim

      Reading Japanese comprehension failed once again. I can’t see any ‘very angry’ voices in the comments…

      • anti 38sfie

        would gladly cut your windpipe in two

        • Rutim

          lol

          • harvz

            The irony is how he probably passes out at the site of blood.

    • chris

      and there goes chucky again!! spewing out his hate towards Japan! just admit that you’re a Korean national, who is just as obsessed with the political conflict between the two countries as the right-winger netizens of Japan. you claim you’ve been to Japan and how Japanese people told you how they hated Korean people and blah blah, and how they have WEEKLY protests against Korea (not true btw in the slightest), and how the majority of the country are just plain racists. you know you’re full of shit and only comment to spread your hatred.
      so according to what you’ve said in the past, my friendship with Koreans who did exchanges in Japan, and the Koreans i’ve met overseas during my exchange in Denmark must be fabricated and fake right? my natural enjoyment of Korean cuisine must also just be fake too right? my girlfriend going to S. Korea twice and her love for Kpop is also from bribes taken by Japanese companies to endorse Kpop right? and only Koreans go to Korean bbq/Yakiniku (which exists everywhere) restaurants in Japan right? my girlfriend didnt become fluent in Korean after dating a Korean girl from high school – college right?

      Its one thing to be proud of your nationality and seek right from past wrongs. its another to shove your biased opinions into people’s faces based off fabricated, skewed, one-sided, “personal accounts” like yours

      • “my girlfriend didnt become fluent in Korean after dating a Korean girl from high school – college”

        Okay, that would be pretty hot.

      • terriblemovie

        to chris

        How exactly is anything Chucky saying “anti-Japanese”. He merely mentioned Parks stance and how the Japanese side blew everything out of proportion.

        • Butsu

          Think it’s more of a jab at chucky overall, not this post in particular.

      • chucky3176

        I’ve already addressed these questions regarding ‘liking’ pop culture many times. I am not going to repeat it again and again. My comments here wouldn’t exist if the Japanese news article, and the translated Japanese comments replying to the article, didn’t exist.

        I am just one guy, versus the whole Japanese netizenry spewing out their usual bull shit. So where’s the hate truly coming from?

        • Rutim

          You’re not one guy against ‘the whole Japanese netizenry’ but you’re a part of a voluntarily group of gyopo’s who take aim for the English-speaking websites about Japan and try to troll as much as you can. At least you’re not the worst one.

          Isn’t it, chucky?

        • Sillian

          I think chris sounds reasonable. I’ve had enough good personal experience with Japanese pals. They certainly don’t deserve your negative generalizations. Please try to be specific. Don’t just say Japanese are this and that. Starting from there on, you can have reasonable discussions.

        • chris

          one guy against the whole Japanese netizenry????

          hey, remember that guy who held that sign at a Ulsan Hyundai soccer match, congratulating Japan on the 3.11 disaster? or the guys who cut off live pheasant heads on Japanese flags? so i must be the loner against all Koreans with anti-Japanese sentiment like you right?

          just listen to how ridiculous you sound.

    • Hypocrite

      Korea ought to have a correct understanding of history:

      Sinchon Massacre (North Korea) by Amerikan and South Korean Marines
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaruka/3980980320/sizes/m/

      US and ROK War Crimes in Sinchon – Shocking Images: Torture, rape, mass genocide
      http://www.youtube.com/v/Rm9DmRaQulc&hl=en_US&fs=1&

      Rape and massacre of Vietnamese civilians by the Korean military
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_aXaRtmtw

      Barbaric act of the Korean military in Vietnam
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JS0KU0PyA

      The Crime of Korea
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cta5M9J3fE

      • terriblemovie

        Hypocrite: thats whats called a “straw man” and “red herring” argument.

        You justify Japanese atrocities by mentioning a completely unrelated event. Straw man and red herrings are done by people with poor debating skills. Example of strawman and red herring

        Douche: 9/11 is justified because US soldiers killed civillians in Vietnam.

        And for your information, Sinchon is taught in schools. South Korea has apologized for the atrocities that occurred during the Vietnam war. The president himself visited Vietnam to apologize. Today, South Korea and Vietnam are buddies. More importantly, South Korea does not deny the atrocities committed in Vietnam.

        Koreans don’t claim that they bombed and shot Vietnamese in order to “civilize” and “industrialize” their country. Thats why South Korea and Vietnam are friendly while Koreans look down on Japan.

        • terriblemovie

          Examples of “strawman” and “red herring” arguments used by Japanese debaters(arguably the worst debaters in the world)-

          1. Nanking massacre
          2. Mention that Mao Zedong killed Chinese people.

          1. Unit 731
          2. Mention that PLA soldiers killed Tibetans.

          1. Colonization of Korea
          2. Mention Korean activity in Vietnam.

          1. forced sex slaves
          2. mention that some of the recruiters were Korean(leave out the fact that they are under Japanese order).

          1. Japanese history books distort history.
          2. Claim that China/Korea distorts their history books to.

          1. Death camps/Baatan death march
          2. Mention that Japanese Americans were placed in internment camps.

          1. Any Japanese war time atrocity
          2. once upon a time did

          Notice how they don’t actually bother to refute the argument at hand and instead tries to change to subject or bring up an entirely irrelevant point. As if one atrocity can be justified by another.

          Luckily the justice system does not work that way.

          • Red Kloud

            +1 Couldn’t have said it better myself. Apologists and revisionists constantly use these same tired, cliche and intellectually dishonest counter arguments EVERY single time Japan’s atrocities are brought up or discussed. You broke down their tactics in a most simple and concise manner and for that I applaud you. The sad part is that so many Japanophiles and neutrals are easily fooled by such arguments and begin to perpetuate these fallacies themselves.

          • Hypocrite

            I’m not an Anglophone but. Although I’m not pro-Japanese or anti-Korean, I firmly believe that the Japanese atrocities were fabricated by the Allies to defame the Emperor and the Japanese people. The official history of WWII was written by the winners. The American, Chinese and Korean governments (honest and reliable governments) are not being fair and impartial.

            The photos of the Nanking Massacre were from victims of war between Chinese Communists and the Chinese Nationalists. Mao Zedong killed more than 80 million Chinese and put the blame on Japan.

            The test subjects used by Unit 731 were soldiers, spies and terrorists, not civilians.

            There is convincing evidence here. http://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/result.php?word=ZW

            Also, more than 50,000 Indian childrens were tortured, raped, sodomized and killed in the residential Christians schools across America. http://itccs.org/2013/02/25/guilty/

            Also, Chinese and Korean education is nothing more than brainwashing. A deliberate effort by the government to dumb down the masses. Zionazi domination!

          • Guy Fawkes

            Wow, you have many great examples of being hypocritical to distort the history. I am not from China or Korea and my school textbooks in my country taught me about Japan just fine and I know from the history facts and what you wrote here is only denial. Japan is nowhere near Germany who is honest enough to admit and apologize on her mistakes. As a result, the legacy between Germany and Japan is so different. Now, people around the world like Germany and Germans in comparison with Japan being hated by its neighbor. Personally, I like Japanese culture and I think Japanese are nice. But when it comes to history, I just don’t think they are man enough to face it.

          • Eudaimonia

            If you got those response you’d be mostly correct, yet…

            “1. Japanese history books distort history.2. Claim that China/Korea distorts their history books to.”

            …this is simply wrong. One can’t expect from the other what one doesn’t do for oneself, this is called hypocricy. Do you know the word?

            Also, there are other reasons why the so-called text-book controversy is silly, like: that there’s only one book (out of many books used in Japan) that’s only used by less than 0,5% of schools. Schools which are private.

          • Morricane

            It’s not really silly, it’s just smaller an issue than they make it to be.
            And anyway, school textbooks…come on, if you really would want to know something about history, would you read a damn school textbook??? People who blindly believe that everything they learned in school is total fact should wake up.

          • Eudaimonia

            I don’t disagree with you, it surely is a very VERY smaller issue than they make it to be.

            What i’m saying is that it’s hypocritical for a country that doesn’t add its own crimes etc in its own history textbooks to claim that it’s bad that Japan isn’t adding in a correct way some of its crimes to some of its own history books.

      • Hypocrite

        Those who are blind to the past cannot see the future – if so, then Korea has no future.

        During the Ghengis Khan period, Korea had a puppet monarchy.

        Also, when you see how large and close China is, you can understand that during thousands of years, Korea was completely subservient to China.

        During the 16th and 17th Centuries and 1910 to WWII, Korea was colonized by Japanese.

        After WWII Korea became a vassal state of Soviets

        Nowadays Korea is just a dependent and vassal state of the US (beggar)

        The father of current SK President, Park Chung-hee was financed by japanese corporations which provided free training and technology to Hyundai, Samsung, LG etc. The best University in Korea: Seoul National University was founded by japanese, formerly Keijō Imperial University.

        I’m not pro-Japanese or anti-Korean, but facts are facts!

        • terriblemovie

          Hypocrite represents Japanese dishonesty at its worst.

          Being a tributary of China meant establishing trade and diplomatic relations. No tribute = no or limited trade. It has nothing to do with being a slave nation. Don’t believe me? The British Empire became a tributary of China in 1793, 1795, 1805 and 1816. They did this in order to trade with the Qing dynasty (the Brits especially enjoyed tea). Eventually the British ran out of silver to trade with so they simply invaded China and forced them to buy up Opium.

          Slavery my ass. Being a tributary = more trade. Japan frequently paid tribute to China as well. In fact they paid tribute to Korean dynasties as well. But you conveniently leave this out. Japan was always the inferior to Korea until they westernized (copied America and Europe) in the early 20th century. Heres proof-

          Goguryeo-Yamato= Japan loses
          Battle of Baekgang = Japan loses
          Silla-Yamato war= Japan loses
          Woukou war= Japan loses
          1st tsuhima invasion= Japan loses
          Oei invasion(2nd)= Japan loses
          1st Imjin war= Japan loses
          2nd Imjin war= Japan loses
          battle of myeongnyang= Japan loses
          battle of noryang= Japan loses

          Japan lost every war it had with Korea until it began plagiarizing the west. Thats why Japan was stuck in resource poor, earthquake prone, isolated island for its entire history.

          You mad?

          • Pickle

            Forced them to buy opium? Weren’t they using it long the British sold it to them?

          • Guy Fawkes

            Opium wasn’t so widespread before the British brought in to Chinese port. They ran out of silver to trade and opium were brought there from British India (top producer of opium at the time) to trade. When Qing China tried to stop by confiscating and destroying the opium, the British fought them. Hence the two Opium Wars.

          • Pickle

            Going by what you wrote, that does make it seem bad but I bet if the reverse happened the Chinese would do the same. Or rather businessmen who were Chinese. I say this because when people say British they think white people and by that extension ALL white people are blamed for this in the minds of ignorant people.
            What were the British trading for at this time with the Chinese? Why so desperate for all their goods when the world was open enough for them to have access to things more valuable and wonderous? There is more to this than history snippets like to tell us and I suspect a smart fellow like yourself could provide an answer.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            China. Fine china. That special kind of porcelain was a Chinese secret that was closely guarded and it was highly coveted in all of Europe. Every family had to have a set. That was one.

            Tea. Heck Brits could get it elsewhere, but there were some teas only China could produce and since that is basically the only thing water related Brits could drink safely that also cost a bit to import.

            Jade. This not so much, but with Brits being an Empire, the richer families wanted more exotic things to set them apart, and jade was another source for this.

            These three things seem to be the main products China sold, there may be more I dunno. What I DO know is that Britain had little to nothing to offer back so they ended up buying a lot and selling little.

          • Pickle

            I remember learning that the Chinese( or rather the individuals they were trading with) were only interested in silver from Britain. I suspect the other Chinese would have found things that were of desirability to obtain but either did not or could not trade with these merchants.

            Jade. There’s more valuable stuff of that in the Americas in certain regions.

            Tea? I believe at this time but I could be wrong that the Brits were using Sri Lanka or Thailand and India to get tea too.
            Fine china? Weren’t people in Europe at this time already making their own.
            I’m not shooting down your points. You’re probably right. But I feel there are more things.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Well yes, and the British were pouring the silver out like water for the China.

            “Weren’t people in Europe at this time already making their own. ”

            No, Europe was not making fine china yet. Hard to believe but back when it was a Chinese trade secret, that
            basically gave China a monopoly on the porcelain industry. They could charge whatever they wanted.Only after the sacking of Beijing did they find out how Chinese were doing it.

          • Pickle

            Are you sure? I just read somewhere that Europeans were making it since the 1700s after learning it’s secrets from a man who traveled to China.
            And bone china was original developed in England. There must have been something else they really wanted.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Yes I am sure. The 1700s saw the emergence of porcelain development in Europe, but it was still importing the Chinese product since the 1500s. It was the Blue and White ware that was produced in China that was most popular.

            I might have been wrong when the Europeans had discovered the secrets, but by that point the Chinese still had a firm hold on it.

            Other products that sold well were silks obviously, jade(simply because it was an Eastern thing and the Old World held this fascination with all things Asian hence the attention to China and Japan), Chinese Teas(I know Britain got some from Tibet but do you know if it was Tibeten grown or the tea Tibet imported in exchange for giving China horses?), etc.

            It didn’t help Britain that others like the Spanish and Dutch were making more profit with their spice trade and New World crops.

          • Pickle

            I don’t know too much about where they obtained their tea. I always thought places like India and places near there provided the most amount.
            Speaking of the New World, do you know what things such as crops did they Chinese want? I know corn has been grown there for centuries after it was introduced.

          • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

            Only three I know of.

            Chili Peppers and other spices like it were introduced by the Spanish. It became a cornerstone to Sichuan cuisine.

            Potatoes and sweet potatoes by the Columbian exchange helped stave off famine and promoted growth in rural areas.

            Peanuts might have also come over, but that could just as likely have been introduced to a neighboring Asian nation who then introduced it to China.

          • Pickle

            Chili peppers? I thought many were native to Asia. The other crops you mentioned could be easily grown there and afterwards wouldn’t need to trade for them anymore.

          • Alice S

            Apparently in medicine/something. 🙂 Thank god the British were not THAT bad if you look at it that way.

          • Morricane

            Slave countries…hehe 🙂
            Sovereignty vs. Suzerainty

          • Eudaimonia

            That must make your ultra-nationalist Korean self very proud.

          • Alice S

            I’m proud of Korea for its stance of Japps!

        • terriblemovie

          continuation-

          1. Genghis Khan would have destroyed Japan if it wern’t for the fact that Korean ship makers intentionally used faulty ship parts so that the Mongols would sink. You should thank Korea for saving your country. Do a google search of how Korean and Chinese ship makers sabotaged Mongol ships.

          2. Korea was invaded hundreds of times throughout its history yet remained independent for most of its history. Japan was invaded less than 5 times? Why? Because Japan is an isolated island located hundreds of miles at sea with no natural resources and thus no reason to invade. Japan was rarely invaded because their was no gain in doing so. Samurai warrior is a myth. They were weak and dwarves.

          3. Korea was independent for most of its history. Like I said earlier, being a tributary of China meant establishing trade and diplomatic relations. Japan also paid tribute to China.

          4. In the 16th and 17th century, Yi Sun Shin turned Japanese samurai into fish food. Battle of Myeongynang 13 Korean ships vs 333 Japanese ships. Winner: Korea.

          Casualties: 2 Korean sailors killed, no ships lost. 123 Japanese ships destroyed, 8000 dead Japanese. LOL.

          5. Korea was never a vassal state of the Soviets.

          6. Japan still doesn’t have a real military. Korea does.

          7. Samsung by itself is larger than the largest 10 Japanese electronics companies combined. Japan tech is dying.

          8. Japans debt is current 245% of its GDP. Expect Japan to default and go bankrupt very soon.

          • Rutim

            Do you really believe in what you’ve posted?

          • Morricane

            “2. Korea was invaded hundreds of times throughout its history”

            What “Korea” exactly do you mean? Joseon (朝鮮)? I mean, there’s been quite a lot of countries on the Korean peninsula over the course of history…

            “3. Korea was independent for most of its history.”
            “…Japan also paid tribute to China.”

            Concepts of sovereignty vs. suzerainty…there was not a single ruler on the whole world who was on equal footing with the Chinese emperor in terms of divinity. Entering tributary relations symbolized the acknowledgement of that “fact” and thus a (if not de facto, at least nominal) submission under Chinese rule.

            AFAIK, the Joseon dynasty had a very close relation to the Chinese imperial dynasties (esp. due to the close proximity) in these terms.

          • Guest

            Samsung is a wannabe Sony and will never get the same respect. Ever. You guys aren’t even seeing the big picture in that the U.S. (where I’m from) continues to do a great job of dividing Asia to this day. Being a Black man myself I know this tactic all too well in the Black community.

          • Samsung is a wannabe Sony and will never get the same respect. Ever. You guys aren’t even seeing the big picture in that the U.S. (where I’m from) continues to do a great job of dividing Asia to this day. Being a Black man myself I know this tactic all too well in the Black community. White people have come up with the tactic divide and conquer and you guys still fail to see this working.

          • KMF

            As much as I hate samsung, comparing samsung to sony is like comparing a giant to a toddler. Samsung branches out extensively and far out from electronics, and is a powerhouse of a company. Sony is now a second rate company that trails behind rest of the world competitor market, just like rest of japan.

          • Alice S

            Don’t be so mean about Samsung. 🙂 🙂

          • KMF

            As somewhat exaggerated some of those points are, they actually are more realistic and accurate then what makoto and some of these ignorant and childish little japs fantasize in their heads.

            That’s saying something.

        • Morricane

          “During the 16th and 17th Centuries […] Korea was colonized by Japanese.”

          ???
          Are you, perchance, speaking of two failed attempts to invade the Korean peninsula by a certain megalomaniac called Toyotomi Hideyoshi?
          There always did exist Japanese enclaves for the sake of trading, but AFAIK, that’s it.

      • Hypocrite

        BITCHEZ!

        Koreans are little bitches! They massacred the North Koreans. Today are blaming Japan for charity. ke ke ke

        • Hypocrite

          Notice how South Korea isn’t being criticized for these recent spats but Japan is. Reason? Korea is a docile dog for Western interest. Koreans are anti-Chinese, anti-Japanese, anti-Asian, pro-Zionist, pro-Christian, pro-White, pro-European, pro-Western. Good bitch. China? good slave.

        • KMF

          You sure like to bitch like a whore in heat. It must be a japanese thing 🙂

      • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

        It really kills your credibility when you are showing North Korean Propaganda as image support. And don’t try to deny it, those paintings are just propaganda, because half the things they blame American GIs for doing were just atrocities commited from the rest o history. From the Spanish Inquisition to the holocaust and just repainting the characters…

    • Butsu

      It also seems more of a sensational piece written by the paper. Just to get pageviews. I wouldn’t go so far as to say they’re even remotely trying to “turn back the clock to 1930”. I will say though that Japan is run by old people, for old people.

      • Morricane

        Well, they sure got more than enough old people…that’s for politicans knowing their target audience! (jk)

        • Jurippe

          I don’t think it’s worth adding the (jk). Japan really is a country of old people being run for old people. That’s why young people are either killing themselves or full of anger.

          • Alice S

            Thank God that they are aging!

    • Edohiguma

      Where did you learn that? Some AmeriKKKan school? Your whitewashed American’t school books?

    • The Truth

      Korea puts more importance on ties with China, than with Japan. thus China will punish the Japanese devils and liberate the world?

      However, the Russians, Indians and Japanese, all countries share borders with China, have already formed secret military alliances. They are not going to go along with plans to offer world control to China. The globalists will only lift up China until they get a chance to betray them.

      With regards to Japan, the Globalists apparently really hates Japan because it is the one remaining nation, as well as Russia and Iran, able to present a significant obstacle – culturally and socially – to their plans for absolute world domination, who still refuses to destroy itself with Zionification, Sovietization, third world immigration and free trade agreements, etc.

      Anyone who has read the coverage of Japan – or Russia, Iran and even India – in the global media over the past decade with a keen eye will have noticed that most stories come back to those same themes: “Xenophobic,” “War criminals”, “Weirdos”, “Protectionists”. They need follow the agenda and sell out its own people like America and China.

      Yeah, Japanese seem to close their mind and not open the eyes to the world. The ability to compete with their astute zionist neighbours, like China and Korea is very poor. Basically the japanese fear the changing world.

      It occurred to me a while back that North Korea has been a lab to test NWO ‘organizational’ techniques on a mass scale under real conditions for quite some time. Wanna know the future of China, Asia? Study NK.

      Nobody likes “big Chinese government” anymore than “Globalists”.

  • ぽこちゃん

    This has proved that the first person who brings a history issue is always SK, and she still can’t get over the past.

    • UltimateEagle

      How about I destroy your country, erase your culture, rape your family and tell you to get over it. Granted, the numbers were pretty little when compared to Korea’s population at the time. But all of us are human beings. We’re no barbaric animals.

      • nqk123

        it’s war. Loser become the spoils of war, this rule exist who know when.

        • KMF

          Be sure to tell that to the japanese women who get raped by US soldiers. Remember to remind those women they deserve what they get 🙂

          • nqk123

            you might not like it. but this is the universal truth. the loser do not have any right in war. especially women and children. even in peace time, women are still being rape and abuse.

          • KMF

            Maybe you are speaking from experience. You should learn better english before mouthing off in a conversation. I don’t ever recall refuting that losers like you or others frequently become spoils of war – it’s just reality.

            I do also enjoy reality quite a bit.

          • nqk123

            whatever, continue to live in that illusion world you create

          • KMF

            What, you are going back on your word? I agreed with most of what you said 🙂

            Whatever, whatever the fuck ever.

          • Alice S

            Some Japp women are soooooo mean. So, totally!

    • rob bs5

      get aids

  • Eudaimonia

    If Japan is Asia’s paradox then what’s Korea?

    The country that can’t even look at itself in the mirror because of the fear that she might see a “Japanese collaborator” (!), and if that happens what can Korea do to save its national identity? 🙂

    • poko chan

      They can do a plastic surgery. So, they can see themselves in the mirror.

      • Yep.

        Japanese people surely don’t do plastic surgery.

        • Eudaimonia

          Truth be told: Not as much as Koreans.

          Not that it matters very much in this discussion.

          • ??

            Well not just plastic surgery, but Japanese are into making porn AV’s. Not that it matters very much in this discussion.

          • Eudaimonia

            You’re trying to say something maybe in your silly mind equally bad but you’re failing miserably.

            Where are you from? China? Where porn isn’t even allowed?

        • chris

          certainly not to the extent of cosmetic plastic surgery!! if anything, Japanese plastic surgery is more so for the adult industry and fetishes = tits and weird teeth fetishes. not because they want to look entirely different from their natural self to escape the societal pressures of having to look like a certain way in order to be considered ‘beautiful’.

    • Makoto

      Korea is a bastardized child of Koreans.

    • Alice S

      If I were to rename Jappland I would name it East Korea LOL!!

  • UltimateEagle

    Funny how the japanese don’t know how much they borrowed from the Koreans and Chinese for most of THEIR history. Where do the japanese think rice cultivation, wood block printing, weapon forging and down to their architecture was all learned from Korea. Let’s not forget chinese confucianism and budhism that they brag is so intwined into their culture. There’s a reason why Japanese museums have boatloads of korean artifacts. Yet they ignore this fact every time.

    • chris

      Correction, its “…architecture was all learned THROUGH Korea.” not FROM. big difference. Japan and Korea pretty much owes a lot of their culture and history to them.

      • Morricane

        Shall we say Tang China? 🙂

    • Makoto

      lol. How much did Japan borrow? Tell me when was Korea a powerful country. Will it be powerful? Never and it will always get anal raped and fucked by Japan/China on both side.

      • Funny

        Korea has free trade agreements with both Europe and USA. Japan does not. So is Korea powerful? Use your tiny brain.

        • Rutim

          >Korea has free trade agreements with both Europe and USA. Japan does not.

          New fun facts 🙂 You’re welcome to write it here.

          • Hypocrite

            Korea is one of the most submissive puppet states in the world to Western interests. They want to destroy Japan and China. Koreans are bitchez!

        • Eudaimonia

          I love how you tell Makoto to use his tiny brain when you very obviously think that free trade agreements are inherently something good, so much so that the mere fact that Korea has them with both Europe and USA while Japan doesn’t means that Korea is powerful.

          Please don’t write in here again, i really hate people who’re so clueless acting like they know what they’re talking about.

          • Way Funny

            Pretty sure of I said “Japan has FTA with USA/Europe, Korea does not.” You think your reply would have been the same?
            Gtfo, you are like those people that tells everyone off on the Internet, but in real life, if someone approaches you, you just apologize. Just be yourself, BELIEVE!

          • Eudaimonia

            Are you “funny” and now became “way funny”(and unable to read)? Your reply is there for anyone to see.

          • Funny Bunny

            Alright you aren’t even trying anymore. Anyways, have a wonderful day!

      • Hypocrite

        Japan/China and US/Europe on both side.

      • UltimateEagle

        Lol. Typical comment from a japanese nationalist. Koguryo was powerful and at that time the Japanese didn’t even have a history.

        Let’s add the pottery into the mix there. They ripped off that skill from the koreans as well. Do you honestly think that Japan could have become anywhere near powerful in WW2 if they didn’t rip off western weapons? Let’s not forget after WW2 the US poured their tech into Japan and gave them the free American market. You are ungrateful. If it wasn’t for the US, after WW2, japanese women would be sucking men off for a living. Then again, the AV industry is still there so their culture of doing that still exists.

        Typical brainwashed japanese not knowing what the rest of the world knows.

        Japan always claims they aren’t jealous but you see all those idiots on youtube, the protests over some stupid Kpop junk, and how they got into a fit of rage when they found out they came from the peninsula they hate so much. You gotta love the delicious tears.

        • Rutim

          Oh, gyopo army’s here… talking about ceramics… Quickly get some more accounts to upvote!

          • jim 58fsf

            die of aids retard

      • fe 528fef

        would gladly fucking cut your windpipe in two, and let you choke to death on your own fucking blood.

      • KMF

        You sound like you are eager to get some jap/

    • Roman

      Let’s not forget chinese confucianism and budhism that they brag is so intwined into their culture.

      Difference between Japan and China / Korea? Shintoism, Samurai, Budō

      Well the japaneese have blown away the chinese and Koreans in terms of class, culture, style and society. And their language doesnt sound like a bag of pig-cats, so they are far superor to china slave state

      • few 5252fawe

        would gladly slit your windpipe in two. Fuckface

    • harvz

      Dislike.

      Who invented what first. It that what you’re arguing about? Such a petty argument.

      All three countries evolved into unique and great societies.

  • Truth and Reconciliation first.

  • terriblemovie

    The Japanese are so brainwashed that they think the rest of the world is brainwashed. They don’t even see the hypocrisy in their argument. They try to rewrite history in 2013 yet accuse their neighbors of bringing up the past. The only people who constantly chirp on about history is Japan.

    Its good that Parks recent visit has resulted in Obama telling Abe and Japan to shut the hell up and quit stirring up trouble in Asia. In fact after the visit, the Japanese government immediately stated(yesterday) that-

    A. Comfort women did in fact exist

    B. The denials by politicians a few months earlier was “misinformed” and based on limited information.

    C. That they will not change past apologies and in fact honor them.

    Japan just got bitch slapped by Obama and Park. They also probably realize that the Japanese economic is pretty much doomed and will default when they inevitable default on their debt. Japan should continue to behave or they will get smacked even more like a petulant child.

    • Eudaimonia

      No, not the rest of the planet, just Korea and China. There are ~200 other countries which are quite indifferent to these things.

      Obama is just protecting his own interests in a Korea that’s moving closer and closer to China since its exports are moving closer and closer to China.

      Noone said that there were no comfort women (or to be exact, noone that matters said it) Let me repeat this so that it gets through your thick brainwashed skull… N-O-O-N-E.

      The things in question here are: What was their exact nature (were they prostitutes? sex slaves? something else? mostly prostitutes but some sex slaves? etc etc) How were they recruited? Exactly how many of them were reqruited frocefully? Did for example their Korean parents sell em out for money?? How did prostitution work in Korea at the time? Is it maybe somehow different than it’s today? 🙂 etc etc.

      Do you understand? Probably not.

      • Yes, wondering out loud whether the sex slavery victims were willing prostitutes is definitely not as morally reprehensible as claiming they didn’t exist.

        “What was their exact nature (were they prostitutes? sex slaves? something else? mostly prostitutes but some sex slaves?)”

        It’s the sex slaves’ words against the Japanese officials’ at the time, who incidentally locked up all pertinent document postwar to never ever be revealed to public again.

        “How were they recruited? Exactly how many of them were reqruited frocefully?”

        ‘Exciting job opportunities overseas! Feed your family for years for working for just a couple of years!’ Japanese recruiters were notorious for tricking young women into taking “factory jobs” and “medical support jobs”. In some cases (especially in the 40s), they just went in and grabbed them.

        “Did for example their Korean parents sell em out for money? How did prostitution work in Korea at the time? ”

        First, loving the logic here. I suppose the existence of Ghetto police in Polish ghettos means Jews are lying about the Holocaust, too.

        Second, I love the double standard here. Hearsay by ultranationalist “academics”? Credible evidence worthy of pondering. Testimonials from actual victims? Lying sluts who probably loved getting gangraped by Japanese soldiers.

        The fact that people like you are even able to write what you wrote up there without getting disgusted by yourself is indicative of Japan’s failure to reflect on their 20th century history and, by proxy, the dangers of such revolting line of thought spreading through the pathetic weeaboo community.

        Get it through your basic human decency-proof head. Forced. Sex slaves. Not willing prostitutes. “We’re just asking questions” becomes a lot more reprehensible when you justify yourself by quoting people who are also interested in turning WWII rhetoric into “Japan was trying to save Asia from the evil Americans/Europeans”.

        • chris

          Not that I dont agree with your comment, but i also just wanted to comment on the double standard principle, or more so the hypocrisy of the “‘Exciting job opportunities overseas! Feed your family for years for working for just a couple of years!’ Japanese recruiters were notorious for tricking young women into taking “factory jobs” and “medical support jobs”. In some cases (especially in the 40s), they just went in and grabbed them.” comment.

          this is from an article from the Int. Business Times. “…many women from poorer Asian countries, particularly The Philippines, flock to South Korea to work as prostitutes and “bar girls” (lured by the promises of legitimate work as waitresses or entertainers)…“Our government was one big pimp for the U.S. military,” Kim Ae-ran, a former South Korean prostitute forced to work at an American military base, told the International Herald Tribune…Reportedly, many female North Korean defectors are forced into prostitution, not only to pay the exorbitant fees charged by people-smugglers, but to earn a living in South Korea — sometimes this scenario leads to tragic consequences.”

          – I just point this out, not to excuse Japan of their crimes during the occupation, but to show that the political approach to this by the S. Korean gov’t isn’t exactly effective when S. Korea is riddled with similar types of crimes. how can you point out someone’s past wrong doing while you’re own country is enduring the same problems in present day? and how is that you seek reconciliation when your own government initially failed to distribute the reparations from Japan to the actual victims of “comfort women” and spent it on governmental infrastructure? with the current direction/approach, nothing will be settled unless Japan and Korea both change their approach to settling this issue.

          • Why would Japan acknowledging that they enslaved women during WWII to sexually abused them be in any way affected by the South Koreans’ problem w/ prostitution? And it’s not like it’s just Koreans who the Imperial Japan did this too, you know. They enslaved women from China, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, and even Dutch women from Indonesia.

            I’ve met a Dutch victim because my great-grandmother is a good friend with her at the retirement home (They’re the only ones there who speak Dutch… even though my great-grandmother is actually French). The stories she told me… makes me want to vomit whenever people like Eudaimonia spews crap like that.

            Whatever South Korea does, that does not change the moral culpability of Japanese gov’t’s continuous, consistent insult towards the sex slavery victims. Hypocritical or not, the fact remains that people like Eudaimonia, Abe, Hashimoto, and Ishihara (and the Japanese people who keeps voting the latter three into office REPEATEDLY) are spitting in the face of those who deserves our deepest sympathy.

          • Eudaimonia

            So, what are you arguing here? What’s your answer? Is your answer… “All comfort women were sex slaves”? “The comfort women that i’ve heard about were sex slaves”? “Some of the comfort women were sex slaves some were not” “Most of them were not – some were” ??
            My questions remain, you people aren’t able to read correctly, let alone do some critical thinking.

          • What you call “critical thinking” – based off of hack ultranationalist “academics” and 2ch netouyo online circle jerks – everyone else calls it “repulsive attempt at revisionism”. It’s funny that, instead of citing materials to support your own challenge to the accepted history that’s not generated by Japan’s equivalent of the Heritage Foundation or addressing any of the points made above, all you can say is “you people aren’t able to read correctly, let alone do some critical thinking.”

            You know, when a Japanese national buys into this, I at least understand where he/she is coming from. Japan’s economy had been stagnant for a whole 1~2 (possibly 3) generations, unemployment atrocious especially for those in the 18~34 age bracket, chaotic switch of leadership at both the legislative and executive branches, China and NK growing ever more belligerent… I get it. Someone like Abe purporting the greatness of Japan in the Meiji~1945 would be appealing and comforting even.

            But people like you? Who aren’t even a Japanese national and completely buys into this crap? To the point where you are able to actually say “Sex slaves, huh? Don’t you mean willing slutty prostitutes?” without feeling that cringe of shame and guilt? What’s your excuse, other than some pathetic weeaboo attempt at trying to make yourself “more Japanese” by feverishly following (more like worshipping) whatever the Japanese ultranationalist internet trollkins are jerking off to this month?

          • Eudaimonia

            Did i say: “sex slaves huh? Don’t you mean willing slutty prostitutes?” WHEN WAS THAT?

            BUT let me ask you this… Do you think that you -in the year 2013- without the proper framework really judge very much the world back in 1920-1940? Do you really think that you know what it was like? Aren’t you in fact judging it with your updated 2013 values but shouldn’t you first try to find the 1920-1940 proper framework from which you should examine what happened back then?

            Anyway, what can one do? Text comprehension difficulties can’t be helped.

          • chris

            and so by that, that completely disregards the sympathy and the respect that other Japanese officials and Japanese citizens have towards the victims? or that some of the reasons why reconciliation is failing doesn’t stem from the Korean government as well? do you think if the government initially paid reparations MEANT for the victims instead of their own infrastructure, it would’ve given some retributive justice? while retribution does not equate to total justice, retribution is a significant part of achieving justice. i understand the controversial issues with officials denying history, but my point is that this whole situation is subjective in the sense that people with anti-Japanese sentiment is quick to dismiss those Japanese who have apologized, and who are sympathetic to the country’s past wrong doings that they had NO control over. and the Korean people who are kind enough to look beyond political disputes and who accept with an open-mind that not all Japanese people are like that of the right-wingers are able to build relationships with Japanese people who do feel sympathetic and admit their country’s crimes = like my relationships with Korean people and culture.

            but then again, its not like that matters to either Terriblemovie or Chucky cause both of them only come to Japancrush to spam their anti-Japanese semitism. its a shame cause people like them (like the Japanese right-wingers) only slows the progressive movements for reconciliation.

        • Eudaimonia

          You’re not very smart are you?

          To make the claims that you’re making one should gather testiments from ALL (or most) comfort women that existed back then and not just a few of them who may indeed have been sex slaves.

          This is like me gathering 15 Italians who’ve been raped by Germans and saying that all italians have been raped by Germans.

          “First, loving the logic here. I suppose the existence of Ghetto police in Polish ghettos means Jews are lying about the Holocaust, too.”

          To even compare the holocaust with this shows your anti-Japanese bias. The holocaust is compareable only with a very select few acts in history, for example: The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the genocide of the Indians, the genocide of the Armenians etc.

          “The fact that people like you are even able to write what you wrote up there without getting disgusted by yourself is indicative of Japan’s failure to reflect on their 20th century history and, by proxy, the dangers of such revolting line of thought spreading through the pathetic weeaboo community.”

          hahahahaha, you’re right because critical thinking is forbidden in the circles of the brainwashed by historical orthodoxy. What are you going to tell me next? That the Americans dropped the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki to save human lives (like the historical orthodoxy dictates)?

          My questions remain, you sadly -as expected- didn’t answer even one of them.

      • terriblemovie

        Thats funny, the rest of the world does in fact acknowledge Japanese war atrocities(Nanking, comfort women, unit 731, invasions). I seem to recall several Japanese war criminals being tried and executed under international law? Only in Japan do you have such a delusional interpretation of history. Its funny how you mention “only” China. China has 1.5 billion people(5x the US population) and a land area 2x the European Union. The only difference between Europe and China in this instance is that Europe is divided into several smaller countries while China isn’t. Still doesn’t change the fact that Japans atrocities rivaled that of the Nazis.

        Obama pimp smacked Japan because your government was causing trouble in Asia. It was misbehaving like a child who forgot his medication. Visiting Yasukuni, denying government involvement in comfort women, rescinding on past apologies, even trying to distort the very definition of colonization. These actions served no purpose other than destabilizing the region further.

        Notice how South Korea isn’t being criticized for these recent spats but Japan is. Reason? Because Japan is acting like a child and needs to grow up. Yesterday, Yoshihide Suga had to clarify that the Abe government will not rescind on past apologies.

        • Hypocrite

          Notice how South Korea isn’t being criticized for these recent spats but Japan is. Reason? Korea is a docile dog for Western interest. Koreans are anti-Chinese, anti-Japanese, anti-Asian, pro-Zionist, pro-Christian, pro-White, pro-European.

        • Eudaimonia

          I’m not Japanese, so it’s not my government. 🙂

          Visiting Yasukuni is perfectly fine, there are 2,5 million people enshrined there, people shouldn’t stop visiting it because of 1k “bad guys”. …i say “bad guys” (with “”) because one could argue that they payed for their crimes with their execution.

          Why don’t you read what i write? Noone is “denying government involvement in comfort women” that’s the silliest thing i’ve ever read. My questions remain, what was the nature of “comfort women” is the issue here.

          Bye bye now.

          • Erick

            Well gee, let’s continue revere the Nazi then. Those people have paid for their crimes since most of them are executed.

          • Eudaimonia

            Revere no, have them in a place where millions of other soldiers are enshrined – why not?

        • Morricane

          Well, Chinese and Korean criticism towards the treatment of the Nanking Massacre mainly comes from the usage of the term “incident (jiken)” instead of “massacre (gyakusatsu)” in Japanese textbooks (it sounds too neutral). But it’s not like Japanese people don’t learn about that…

      • chucky3176

        The Japanese government couple of days ago, admitted (by their own words) that documents exist to support the Comfort women. The plan to rewrite history on that regard, was shelved.

        Maybe you should ask those questions to the government of Japan.

        • Eudaimonia

          Did you actually read that text or did you just read the headline?

          My questions remain.

    • Hypocrite

      The Japanese are so brainwashed that they think the rest of the world is brainwashed.

      Your opinion is contradictory.

      Japan is under military occupation since 1945, the U.S. government interferes in the political affairs of Japan, so why the americans allows this anti-korean-chinese brainwashing? They know something we don’t know?

    • Morricane

      A)
      It’s quite funny that last week was the first time(!) I met a Japanese person below 50 who still states that the comfort women did that *of their own free will*.

      • Alice S

        I am totally not pro-Japp but I think this has something to do with the not believing everything they are told.

  • Guest

    I read it as being about Asia as a whole not just Japan.
    History:
    China – Taiwan
    China – South China sea debate with lots of countries (Vietnam Philippines Malaysia and so on….)
    North Korea and south Korea
    Japan – China, Korea, Russia

    The way i interpret this is that Its not all about Japan, its about east Asia as a whole which includes Japan.

    • chucky3176

      Correct. She was just stating the state of Asia as of today when she was making her speech in front of the congress. She mostly stated the fact that Asian countries are fighting over history. That is true, isn’t it? So where’s the alleged insult to Japan?

      • Rutim

        Japan isn’t Asian country?

        • chucky3176

          So is Korea, was she also insulting Korea too then?

    • Morricane

      Yeah, but you know…just mention a tree falling somewhere in East-Asia and there’ll be this favorite topic coming up from somewhere FOR SURE.

  • Butsu

    So much nonsense and unrelated shit going on in this thread.

  • dk2020

    history is opening up a can of worms that really doesn’t have anything to do with the present .. saving face is bullshit ..

  • chucky3176

    Here she is making the speech to Congress. Judge for yourself if what she said was so terrible.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_bGvybq89E

    I think the Japanese are angry not because of what she said, but because the Congress roared with approval when she made that speech. After all, look at what has happened the last couple of years .

    1) South Korea has FTA with USA, Japan has none. Japan tries desperately to get their own FTA’s going, but nobody wants one with Japan.

    2) US Congress passing the Comfort women bill, telling Japan to stop the bull shit lies. Japan tries desperately to stop the bill, lobbying the congress with financial bribes.

    3) A city in New Jersey, approves the Comfort Women memorial. Japan tries desperately to tear down the memorial, by trying to bribe the city with rewards if they tear it down, and even threatening the city officials.

    4) US media reports that United States government hints that Japan is no longer the most important ally in Asia – gravely worrying the Abe government.

    5) Obama tells Abe, cut the crap and cut the bull shit with all the historic revisions, including Abe questioning the legitimacy of Tokyo War Crimes tribunal in 1945 – otherwise, Japan be prepared for damaging relations with the US. What does Abe do? Retreat two steps back, to alleviate the US anger, he suddenly says “we have found some documents in our files that says the Comfort women maybe telling the truth after all, so we won’t go ahead and revise the Muryama statement in 1993.. at least for now anyway”.

    6) Japan refuses to sign the statement of Non Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, leading to severe criticism from the US, questioning Japan’s motives towards proliferation of nuclear weapons in Japan.

    7) American media, even the long time friend and allies of Japan, the American conservative publications severely criticizing Japan’s attempts to revise all their history, and Japan unnecessarily raising territorial tensions with China (by nationalizing the Senkaku/Daiyou islands), and South Korea (raising this issue at a time when South Korea had possession of the Dokdo/Takeshima island for 50 years).

    Gather them all up, and Japanese are increasingly feeling insecure that they are being slowly caged in. This explains their paranoia. And of course, following the traditional Japanese way of thinking… all the blame lies with Koreans (thus explains all the hate marches against Koreans around Tokyo and Osaka). But instead of blaming it all on Korea, Japan should review their recent actions and maybe think twice.

    • dk2020

      Good breakdown .. so is Japan’s economy really that bad now? I know it’s been stagnant for over a decade but it’s still the 3rd largest in the world behind China and the US ..

    • Eudaimonia

      I stopped reading after reading “1)” because according to this guy FTA’s are inherently something good, and Japan not having one with the U.S. is bad. lol.

      • chucky3176

        Then maybe you should have read further to get the real meaning.

        It’s not me, it’s the Japanese who are increasingly antsy that they’re getting left out of deals.

        Whether FTA’s are good or bad is immaterial in this case, and it’s totally a different discussion.

        • Eudaimonia

          “Whether FTA’s are good or bad is immaterial in this case”

          Is it? So, if someone says that the earth is flat should i continue reading his text?

  • Zer0

    Do you support Communism, rampant corruption and disrespect for human rights? Pro-Chinese.

    Do you support vassalage and submission to Western imperialism? You’re pro-Korean

    Do you support pacifism without intelligence and fascist government? So you’re pro-Japanese.

    Do you support Pan-Islamism and Obama? So you’re pro-Indonesian.

    • kill if852

      go die of aids moron

  • UltimateEagle

    You gotta love the japs. Give back the 250k + artifacts from Korea and China before telling them that they are not original. This is what happens when a weak nation gains power for a few decades. Japan still longs for the day of their barbaric imperial reign.

    Too bad it’s already gonna crumble. The japanese should have mended ties with the rest of Asia when it had the chance. When the Phillipines, Vietnam, and the South East Asians start rising in power as well, they will all want East Asian blood. I would assume japan would be on the top of their list. The Filipinos especially… besides koreans and chinese have definitely not forgotten.

    • KMF

      These facts are like knife to the gut for these japs. Filipinos and rest of East Asia already pretty much think japan is east asia’s cum dump. They come into japan just looking for some easy dig because they know, like everyone know, that japanese women easily spread their legs whenever they find someone better then their weak-willed spineless ‘men’.

      But then japs kind of bring it on themselves with all the AVs. Either way, japanese are pretty much fish on the chopping block.

  • UltimateEagle

    The japanese can’t explain why they have foreign objects in their museums. The choson prince’s armor was grave robbed by Japan when they were running away from the strong Americans. They want us off their land but they forget two things. First of all, they lost the war. They have no right to demand anything. Second, why are they always crying to us about China. Their little divine wind won’t protect them against the Chinese this time. Yet they put up some sort of defiance to muster the little respect they have left.

    They should be mending ties for the incoming eruption of Mt. Fuji and the tsunamis that will come until the end of time.

    Oh well, at least their giant adult video industry will save them. It saved them in the aftermath of the two bombs dropped in WW2.

    • Rutim

      Oh, you come from a ‘certain’ forum it seems 😉 Dokdo class will save Korea!

      At least you should try that famous battle where ten ships sunk 300. This time try with Chinese navy 😉 Koreans are so superior to anyone on this world that it shouldn’t be a problem.

  • UltimateEagle

    I’m surprised. Wasn’t Japan in the same position. Their little pussy Shogun was so scared of the big black western ships. They continue to do it even till today. If you listen to the politics of Korea and Japan. It’s always, “We must ally ourselves with Amerika”

    What’s so bad about that? Asians are so petty it’s so funny. I find that Chinese are not constrained by this “saving face” bullshit. Despite their lack of human rights, you have to respect them for that. Japan is the biggest pleaser of the West. They go apeshit when foreigners were claiming racism in Japan.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      If Japan still has ninjas, they would come to whoop your ass.

      • KMF

        LOL bitch

    • Reza

      “I find that Chinese are not constrained by this “saving face” bullshit.”

      You really said that? You haven’t been to China and have no idea how Saving Face works. You save face from people important to you. Here (China), if someone falls down, no one goes to help them up. Why? because they will blame you and try to swidle money out of you. America is an ally of Korea and Japan, so of course they will try to save face with them. America and China are not allies. Why would China try to save face with them? They will try to show their people they are standing up to the American Bully, that is how they will save face.

  • yakubakuzan

    well. japs will always be japs.
    another nuclear bomb can only fix i am afraid to say.

    • Alice S

      Agree.

    • Reza

      How this racist comment didn’t get a lot of downvotes, i’ll never know. It’s like a redneck yank saying “Nuke the middle-east.”

  • chucky3176

    Shinzo Abe’s wife under Japanese public attack for watching and praising a Korean musical show.

    http://news.hankooki.com/lpage/world/201305/h2013051101363322450.htm

    The more I read, the more disgusted I am with Japan.

    • Rutim

      You’re living proof that her action was pointless as well.

      • To Rutim

        So what was her action other then watching a musical?

        • Rutim

          I’m not talking about her. I’m talking that chucky is just a mere neouyo. Even more pissing off as even when there’s nothing involving Koreans he’ll come to you and write how Japanese are devil monkeys.

          • chucky3176

            Rutim, for someone who has been reflecting the same ideology held by Japanese netouyo’s, that takes a lot of ball to call me one.

          • Sillian

            Rutim seems only defensive. I don’t think he follows any netouyo ideology. I think Rutim wouldn’t care if your attacks were carefully targeted on netouyo and all those directly accountable for trouble. Why can’t you confine your targets specifically for christ’s sake? That would earn you credit and reduce a lot of meaningless cheap shots and bad blood around here.

          • chucky3176

            Rutim is definitely reflective of Japan itself – net right wing in the inside, pretending to be not, on the outside.

          • KMF

            What’s funny is that japs actually think they are fooling anybody ^__^

    • Reza

      “The more I read, the more disgusted I am with Japan.”

      I guess for Gaijin/Waygookin/Laowei reading Japancrush, Koreabang and Chinasmack, we could probably say the same about all 3 nations. And using your critrea, it would all be true and fine.

  • Relivash

    Well, if this was criticism against japan, I’d say it was stupid for if she really wanted to create a powerfull economic alliance she’d do her best to forget the past for the sake of the future.

    South- and North East Asia has a lot of bad relationships due to their history. All sides have done something despicable, but none truly seems to be interested in moving forward.

    • chucky3176

      She said exactly the same thing that what you said in the last paragraph. And it turned into a “she was unfairly bashing Japan”.

  • Cleo

    somehowe despite resembling a Japanese woodblock painting, President Park came off very nicely during her speech in DC. That’s the thing with me and Koreans – I’m often annoyed by them and then they will do something so true and unJapanese that I am comforted and assured. That resemblance is VERY disturbing however.

  • Flora

    It seems to me that history-deniers & revisionists in Japan are like Tea Partiers in America – they are in NO way the majority (the majority either being sensible or not caring), but they’re definitely the loudest.

    And because politicians are either too stupid or too lazy to figure out who the real majority is, they keep kowtowing to the increasingly extremist demands of whoever’s screaming the loudest and everyone else suffers because of it.

  • Edohiguma

    The lack of historic knowledge in the comments here is amazing. Especially all the Americans screaming. It’s amusing. The US shaking a finger at Japan over the comfort women, while just after the US occupation of Japan began US servicemen raped thousands of Japanese women and, even today, the US keeps covering it up.

    The Aussies have acknowledge it. But then again, the Aussies are generally more reasonable than the AmeriKKKans.

    • KMF

      Some half-breeds are always the loudest when bitching. American military apologizes EVERY DAMN TIME a marine or army member goes off and commits a crime. When the fuck you even hear about JSDF members getting that much flak when it’s a known truth civillians don’t like to mix with soldiers because they generally have a tendancy to mess with civvies? Where was the outcry when a JSDF soldier raped a local nurse and a little girl?

      For every 1 crime that is reported, japs let yakuza and thugs they are scared of (which includes some 16 year old gangbanger wannbe punks lol) get away with 10 crimes especially if they are connected to politicians.

      You bitch about koreans and chinese when in fact chinese have over 10% minority population and you barely have 3. The reason other asian countries don’t give a shit about japan’s past history is because everyone knows japanese were just brats who took temporary advantage of monopoly on western technology and education to launch a perfect failure of 3rd rate imperialism that ended with a bunch of japanese women being raped across east asia. They know you are nothing and will be happy to show how wrong you are about them as well.

      As for bitching at US, you must be some desperate fuck head to actually think any of you ass pull comments even get taken seriously. Really, where did that big bad American bully you so bad? They just take one look at a bitch like you and laugh it up.

      You need the shut the fuck up and check yourself instead of bitching on a month old article.

  • fukkorea

    This brainless old Chousen whore should go to hell

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