Surviving Korean Comfort Women To Be Nominated For Nobel Prize

Former Korean comfort women protesting in Seoul

The comfort women issue has once again gained the attention of international media this week, after the Korean Women Lawyers Association and the Women’s Forum for Peace and Diplomacy announced a joint plan to nominate 53 surviving former comfort women from Korea for the Nobel Peace Prize.

While the South Korean media praised the plan as a way to spread awareness about the issue worldwide, Korean netizens expressed concern that the nomination will be laughed at internationally and cause further pain for the survivors. 2chan and Yahoo! Japan users were even harsher in their reactions.

From Yahoo! Japan:

In Korea, 53 Former Comfort Women Put Forth as Nobel Peace Prize Candidates – Korean Internet: “The World Will Laugh At Us Again,” “Stop Stirring Up People’s Anti-Japan Sentiments!”

On April 29, 2015, the South Korean newspaper Segye Ilbo reported that the Korean Women Lawyers Association and the Women’s Forum for Peace and Diplomacy will press forward with their plan to recommend the surviving former comfort women of the Japanese military as Nobel Peace Prize candidates.

On April 28, the Korean Women Lawyers Association and the Women’s Forum for Peace and Diplomacy stated, “We are discussing a plan to recommend Lee Yong-soo and 53 other women as Nobel Peace Prize candidates, with the intent that we should recognize the comfort women victims who have served the cause of women’s rights and regional peace through various activities.”

The news has received positive coverage from the South Korean media, with statements such as, “We can spread the message worldwide that unless we resolve the comfort women problem, it will be difficult to maintain peace in Northeast Asia.”

In response, there was a flood of critical comments from Korean internet users.

“Don’t turn these poor old ladies into a laughing stock.”
“I feel like this is not for the sake of peace…”

“The world will laugh at us again. I support the activities of the comfort women victims, but they do not fit the goal of the Nobel Peace Prize.”
“The Nobel Peace Prize is a stretch. Are they making fun of the comfort women victims? Don’t they find it shameful to do that?”

Alfred Nobel is crying in heaven.”
“So is the plan to recommend the Sewol victims after the comfort women victims?

“This is basically in the same spirit as saying, ‘make a Nobel Women’s Prize!’”
“It’s a good idea, but I wonder if they’ll put it into action? Won’t it just bring up difficult memories for the old ladies?”
“If it weren’t for Japan, South Korea wouldn’t have made it this far. From now on, stop stirring up people’s anti-Japan sentiments.”

Comments from Yahoo! Japan:

oka*****:

Thank you for yet again providing the joke material for my day.

sak*****:

Why would they be able to get a Nobel Peace Prize for selling their bodies? Is it “Love & Peace” or something? No matter how you think about it, these people are outrageous. I think Anti-Korean views will just become more and more of a global trend because of this.

sak*****:

This is incredible in that it shows that people can really become this shameless.

kqq*****:

No matter how you think about it, far from getting a Nobel Peace Prize, I think it’s much more plausible that they’ll be cited for fraud by Interpol. I completely don’t understand how living witnesses are supposed to be evidence.

よけろナッパ:

Just wait, next year it will have increased to 54 people.

gsa*****:

Please do your best. Because I’m looking forward to this becoming the cornerstone of a gigantic boomerang effect.

fuk*****:

No matter how you look at it, they’re crazy!

che*****:

I don’t really care either way, but doesn’t this mean that ranking has become necessary even within the victim business?

she*****:

So naturally this will include what happened in Vietnam too, right?

oct*****:

Anyhow, shouldn’t “comfort women in their 60s” be making an appearance? Because there are also people who “worked as comfort women until 1947”. If that’s the case, this might be amusing.

Comments from 2ch.net:

レインメーカー(庭)@\(^o^)/:

Go ahead and apply to Monde Selection, too.

キドクラッチ(長野県)@\(^o^)/:

Was what they did for the sake of peace?

トペ スイシーダ(東京都)@\(^o^)/:

Added to Article 9 of the Constitution, the Nobel Prize sure is popular w

ニールキック(家)@\(^o^)/:

A Nobel Prize for prostitutes?

トラースキック(愛知県)@\(^o^)/:

53 Nobel Prize recipients in one go? www Way to go ww You’ve overflowed the pedestal wwwwwwwww

ハーフネルソンスープレックス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [in response to above]:

When I imagined it, I doubled over

ファルコンアロー(西日本)@\(^o^)/ [also in response to above]:

The pedestal w Is it finally my turn? ww

魔神風車固め(沖縄県)@\(^o^)/:

LMAO
I definitely want them to win it. w

フライングニールキック(庭)@\(^o^)/:

Isn’t this a good opportunity? They should investigate everything and then let the whole world know. By all means, go for it.

ジャンピングDDT(茸)@\(^o^)/:

Isn’t this a good chance to expose those assholes’ lies to the whole world?

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  • bujiebuke

    LoL at the Japanese comments who insinuate that comfort women were all prostitutes. Even if they were prostitutes, they sure weren’t getting paid to be perpetually raped.

    I have to wonder what other lies they teach in schools that are getting candied as facts in Japan.

    • Johan Biercke

      to japanese men, any woman who isn’t japanese is a prostitute. That’s the most ironic thing considering how their neighbors see Japanese women (And the amount of porn Japan produces)

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Isn’t that kind of a really… REALLY broad way of describing Japanese men?

      • Guest

        What kind of bullshit is that?

      • Dark Night

        Actually its the other way around. Japan’s morals regarding sexual issues are so~ loose that they don’t think that being kidnapped, gang banged and beaten as rape. Which is why I believe that all Japanese woman should also be treated as such.

        • niga jael jal na ga

          The fuck?… sarcasm right?

    • R. Vandaka

      Recruited by brokers to be prostitutes, paid for their services. what’s wrong with that? No evidence that they were forcibly capture by Japanese Military in Korea. Where is the evidence?

      EDIT: I WAS WRONG!

      • troll harder

        Yes you are wrong and your post is very disgusting and you should be ashamed… There is living proof and it’s agreed globally that Japan engaged in destruction of documentation right after the war to not incriminate themselves.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Hmm. Seems like the Japanese government has tried to apologize and make amends for these issues. I was under the impression they have been consistently denying it.

    Edit: quick google and wiki showed they apologized and paid reparations for the treatment of comfort women. Edited my post to reflect this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women#Apologies_and_compensation

    • Japanese

      Dan, this issue keeps coming up because the Japanese government keeps changing their position and the current Japanese government’s stance, which is they were well paid prostitutes. If Japan didn’t keep tinkering with their past Murayama positions, this wouldn’t have been as a big issue as it has now. Also, it’s weak sauce to quote Wiki, when that’s been tinkered so many times by the Japanese right wingers on the internet.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Hmm. I see. It’s just to have a basic understanding, I take everything on Wiki with a very large grain of salt.

        Well, point is, their government is obviously not unified in their decision-making (much like most governments in this world), and yet they’ve managed to make some leeway in the right direction.

        Hopefully, they see how their flip-flopping tends to make things worse and bite the bullet to solve this situation as soon as they should. Which was years ago.

        • Homer

          You seem to be little informed about the Japanese government. The Japanese government has been dominated by the Liberal Democratic Party, which is neither liberal nor democratic, ever since the end of WWII. The LDP was founded by many old elites who had held power during the wartime regime, and they were backed up by McArthur and the American occupying force to counter the influence of the socialist parties that were on verge of taking hold of Japan at the end of the war. The result was an almost non-intermittent rule of the LPD since 1955, with virtually every Japanese prime minister save for two coming from the LPD. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan) )

          One of those two exceptions was a 11 months period between 1993 and 1994 when the prime minister came from the Japanese Socialist Party. And guess who it was? It was Murayama, the one who made the most candid apology for Japanese war crimes so far, which happens to be the often cited apology when people are arguing that “Japan has apologized”. But what is it use when Murayama’s approach made him so unpopular domestically that the his term ended only after 11 months. He could have been Japan’s version of Willy Brandt.

          But instead, all the subsequent prime ministers from LDP made an extra effort to revert to the old white washing stance and explicitly advocated their revisionist agenda to deny or downplay Japan’s wartime atrocities, in particular Koizumi who frequented the Yasukuni Shrine many times in the function of the prime minister, the shrine that is glorifying Japan’s imperial past and honoring people like Hideki Tojo and Seishiro Itadaki who were the high-ranking ministers and generals responsible for Japan to go on a militaristic course and many of its brutal war tactics. Naturally, many in Korea or China are distrusting the Japanese government and believing to be an offspring of the same elites that were in power during WWII, and indeed many people working in the current Japanese government have are blood related to the ones running the war time regime, a prominent example being Abe, whose grandfather Nobusuke Kishi was the Minister of Ammunitions during WWII.

    • bumfromkorea

      The sincerity of those apologies become somewhat suspect when they are sandwiched between national-level ministers (some Prime) and Diet members making comments about how the Comfort Women are opportunistic lying whores out to get more $$$. You can’t just pick out the apologies only and start making comments about just how many times Japan has apologized and tried to make amends – that would be an incredibly (and intentionally) selective understanding of what has happened.

      *John punches Kevin in the face.*
      Kevin: Dude, WTF?!
      John: Oh, man. I am so sorry about that.
      Kevin: What was that for?!
      John: What a little bitch you’re being, though, huh?
      Kevin: What?!
      John: Oh, dude. Sorry. I don’t know what I was thinking.
      Kevin: What’s wrong with you?
      John: What’s wrong with me? What’s wrong with you? Why you gotta be such a little bitch about all this?
      Kevin: What did you say?!
      John: Oh.. Oh I am so sorry about that. Seriously I am.
      Kevin: Fuck you, dude.
      John: What?! How can you say that? God, it’s like I punched you in the face or something.
      Kevin: You DID punch me in the face! What the fuck?!
      John: Oh yeah, that’s right. Sorry about that.
      Kevin: You got problems, man.

      Dan: Kevin, it sounds like John apologized multiple times. Why don’t you cut him some slack?

      It’s not just you, Dan. This is what happens when sources like wikipedia shows literally only the apologies. To you, I’m sure it looks like this:

      *John punches Kevin in the face.*
      Kevin: Dude, WTF?!
      John: Oh, man. I am so sorry about that.
      Kevin: What was that for?!
      John: Oh, dude. Sorry. I don’t know what I was thinking.
      Kevin: What’s wrong with you?
      John: Oh.. Oh I am so sorry about that. Seriously I am.
      Kevin: Fuck you, dude.
      Kevin: You punched me in the face! What the fuck?!
      John: Oh yeah, that’s right. Sorry about that.
      Kevin: You got problems, man.

      • Japanese

        Strategically speaking, South Korea is going about this in a completely wrong way. They should not be demanding apologies. Instead they should demand the Japanese to stop whitewashing and stop telling revised history based on Japanese nationalism. Those are concrete demands. Constantly asking for apologies only works counter to what’s intended.

        • troll harder

          Like that has never happened… you (and those who up-voted your comment) need to pull your head out of the sand…

          Korea has voiced this in the past on ever turn they could… All of which fell on deaf ears. Your comment is a perfect example of this…

          The simplest solution would be to for Japan to listen, when Korea demands they stop whitewashing and just own up to the atrocities and make efforts to educate and even go as far as legislate denials as some sort of fine-able office (if not criminal)… Then Korea (or anyone else for that matter) can take shove it, if they decide to rattle that saber again… No additional apology needed. This way Japan keeps what imaginary “face” they think they have and Korea can hold on to it’s bloated “pride”.

          Japan in fact would look like a mature leader in East Asia, as it’s tries to portray itself as.

          • troll harder

            typo… “fine-able office” is suppose to be “fine-able offense”

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Ah, I see what you’re saying. Don’t worry, I don’t think everything’s perfect now!

        It’s more of a “well… John apologized. That’s as much as we can expect from a douchebag like him.”

        Doesn’t stop me from thinking he’s a douchebag, it’s more of me highlighting a very very VERY…. very slim silver lining.

        “Sure, Hitler killed everyone, but he went out embarrassingly by suicide! That’s something… I guess.” … That does explain why Hitler is still made fun of so much today.

        Yeah, they definitely need to do better.

        • Probotector

          Hitler is only made so much fun of today or even evoked outside of history class because the left-wingers in this world see him as the poster child of everything they disagree with, and fail to recognise that there are many historical personalities on their side (communists mostly) who were worse than Hitler. Not that I’m defending him in any way, but rather I’m decrying the typical leftist comparison to Hitler of anyone who isn’t in agreement with them.

          Anyway, I think people would have said Hitler went out embarrassingly no matter how he died. On the one hand, you can say he was a coward for not facing his victims in the eye, by surrendering/standing trial/taking his punishment like a man and all the rest of it. On the other, you can say HE BELIEVED that suicide was perhaps a more dignified way to go, as he would have undoubtedly been tortured and humiliated by the bloodthirsty Russians who got to Berlin first. Still cowardly though.

          In any case, most people would agree that every one of his victims undoubtedly died with more dignity than he did.

  • Jamie

    Koreans make this an issue and they got compensation! They chose to spend on Chaebols and decadence!

    Seeing Koreans selling their bodies in Western World, Asia and even brazil, I think being hooker is part of Korean culture and so I doubt they were “sex slaves” I bet they were willing and afterwards slyly want money.

    Koreans have no shame or ethics. Japan shouldn’t have colonized like they did, should have killed everyone so no Koreans left!

    • lonetrey / Dan

      Yeah, no. -fires the Troll signal flare into the sky-

    • Info8282

      We are still here after 5 Thousand years, plus 36 years Japan Military Occupation, even after Korean War. 15 year old and 18 year old above are different in Sex related business. If you have sex with 15 year old. It is called Child pornography even today you get arrested. You fucking Moron!!!!!!!!!!!

  • AK
    • suki

      how much of a democracy is Japan? is it majority wins? or representational?weimar germany did not need a majority to elect and neither does the usa

  • takasar1

    of course, the entire matter is patently ridiculous. if we give out prizes to victims then i guess we better pre-book the next 5 centuries worth of nobel prizes to simply accomodate the living victims of 20th century conflicts! then again, this is the institution that gave obama a nobel prize for being black….and the EU one for avoiding a war for 60-odd years (rioting in athens doesn’t count apparently).

    • J

      So do you agree with Japan’s stance that they were professional prostitutes? Up to what point do you accept Japan’s culpability?

      • takasar1

        lol. stop. just stop. pushing one’s agenda into the face of others in an unrelated article is the vogue these days, i know. but how about you re-read my comment. if you can understand it, bravo, we can move on with our lives. if not, phone a friend.

      • Reading is importantant

        That’s not what takasar1 is saying. Please read it carefully. He never denied that they were victims of sexual-slavery, he’s simply saying that being a victim of a crime should not qualify one for a Nobel Peace prize. He then points out to other undeserving recipients of said prize and the ludicrous reasons as to why they were awarded it in the first place.

    • Probotector

      Lol I remember that, and he got it like only a couple of months after being elected. However, it’s actually because of his non-proliferation treaty with Russia. He basically agreed to make no more nukes and told them the serial numbers of all of the SLBMs the U.S. supplies to Britain, which is partly why the Russian air force has been confident enough to invade our airspace recently.

      There have been many other riots in European countries apart from those in Greece… and also acts of terrorism, over the last few decades, so no that wouldn’t count. The citation of peace was referring to actual war on a continental scale (on par with the numerous other wars Europe has suffered over the last millennium) having never reoccurred.

      Even so, appeasing the Russian dictator and giving a bunch of bureaucrats who never did anything specific to secure peace is not really deserving of the award. The Nobel institution is certainly a joke these days I’ll agree.

  • Anon

    No different than how we treat Jews in Europe

    Better make reparation for the rest of the century while they keep inventing story to get more sympathies

  • terriblemovie

    God, can the Japanese get any more pathetic? They live in their own delusional little bubble of stupidity. Do they honestly think the rest of the world supports their white washing of history? Sorry idiots but the rest of the world acknowledges Japans sexual slavery of these women.

    I hope the comfort women win just so I can see these japanese retards foam at the mouth like wild dogs with rabies.

    • suki

      please post that cartoon with the pimple faced japanese nationalist otaku again

    • doraemon

      So far, Abe and his cabinet has not officially revised statements made by Kono and Murayama. Where are problems? As for the rest of individual Japanese, you cannot do much about them how they think about dubious testimonies by some “Kate”s.

    • USA isn’t any better. I heard Vietnam War is still not in the history textbooks yet. I bet their use of comfort women aren’t even mentioned in their textbooks!

      The world concentrates on Japan too much. But I understand that doesn’t give Japan the right to slip through unnoticed.

      • Probotector

        Well it certainly was in my textbooks, and the Hollywood leftists have made plenty of movies attacking those who fought at the time, some of it genuine depiction, some of it exaggerated, as any movie does. Moreover, the general consensus (apart from the patriotic veterans, although even some of them have admitted to me that atrocities occurred then too) is that the behaviour of GIs and others back then was generally appalling, although I’m not sure to what extent that is true.

        What’s your point though? Is it that since you believe America never owned up to doing some bad things in the past, it’s okay for Japan to do it too? Bear in mind the scale of it what Japan did was far worse than what America had done in ‘nam.

        Deflection doesn’t make anyone innocent.

        • No, I’m not trying to look at the situation that way. More on the lines of how many countries fail to mention certain parts of their history in school textbooks anyway. Japan isn’t the only country that fail to address such issues.

          For example, China is a very good example when it comes to censoring it’s own history.

          Sorry if my wording wasn’t good, but I’d also like to mention that Japanese military acts was like that during the war because of varying factors, like:

          1. right wing propaganda education
          2. social influence
          3. propaganda
          4. promoting fear?

          5. The emperor allowing himself to be brainwashed by Far Right Wing groups
          6. heavy right wing influence

          • Say No To Japan

            Don’t you dare put the United States in the same breath with your precious Japan. United States government doesn’t their media, put threatening pressures onto individuals and media for stating their opinions as Japan does. Japan routinely violates their democratic rights of free speech. Japan is not a democracy, so you people shouldn’t pretend that you are. Japan just wants to make itself look good in front of the world, but acts and behaves in totally different fashion. Hypocrites and liars don’t deserve any respect, only contempt.

            Peace museum, caving in to threats of closure, scraps wartime ‘aggression’ exhibits

            May 01, 2015

            THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

            OSAKA–A museum famed for its many exhibits showing Japanese aggression during World War II has removed them, bowing to pressure from conservative politicians.

            “We had no choice but to remove the exhibition on the aggression to ensure the survival of the museum,” a source close to the museum explained.

            Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto had threatened to close down the Osaka International Peace Center museum when he was governor of the prefecture.

            Hashimoto’s successor as Osaka governor and a close ally, Ichiro Matsui, praised the facelift when he toured the museum in the city’s Chuo Ward on April 30, the day the facility reopened after renovations.

            “This looks better now,” Matsui told reporters. “I believe exhibits should not represent the view of one side when there are diverse perceptions (on the war).”

            The Osaka International Peace Center is operated by an entity funded by the Osaka prefectural government and Osaka municipal government.

            Among the dozens of exhibits removed were panels on Japan’s invasion of the continent, the colonial rule of the Korean Peninsula, suffering in Southeast Asian countries due to Japanese aggression, text describing the 1937 Nanjing Massacre and abuse of prisoners of war, and photos showing piles of dead bodies and civilians being buried alive.

            Instead, the museum now houses an expanded section on U.S. air raids in Osaka Prefecture between December 1944 and August 1945 and shows a 14-minute war-related video in which Japan is not labeled an aggressor.

            The Osaka International Peace Center was established in 1991 and was known for being a rare public facility in Japan shedding an equal amount of light on the nation’s role before and during World War II as well as the sufferings of the Japanese during that period.

            Masaaki Arimoto, who led the secretariat of the museum for three years from 1992, said the facility opened at a time when there was growing awareness of the importance of learning about Japan’s militaristic past.

            “There were advances in the research on Japan’s aggression, and many of those who fought in the war were alive,” said Arimoto, 78. “People in Osaka shared a notion that they would never be able to fully understand the backdrop behind the air raids without knowledge of Japan’s acts in other parts of Asia.”

            Although the museum attracted about 70,000 to 80,000 visitors annually, it has long been condemned by conservative politicians and organizations.

            In some cases, the museum was forced to withdraw or revise exhibits following protests.

            Yoshinori Kobayashi, a renowned manga artist, denounced the museum by calling it a “system to brainwash viewers in the name of a peace museum” in his 1998 manga “Sensoron,” which defended Japan’s actions during World War II.

            The critical turning point came in 2011, when the Hashimoto-led Osaka Ishin no Kai became the dominant political party in both the prefectural and municipal assemblies.

            The museum was already planning a renovation when Osaka Ishin no Kai party members at the prefectural assembly in the autumn of that year lambasted it, with one saying it had “too many unbalanced exhibits.”

            In response, Hashimoto, who was the governor at the time and pushing through a review of public affiliated entities, pledged to “consider the possible closure of the museum if the exhibits are determined to be inappropriate.”

            As a result of the criticism, the Osaka International Peace Center proposed in 2013 to scale back the display on the aggression and widen the exhibits on the air raids.

            What was installed as a direct replacement for the items on the aggression was 14 minutes of footage portraying the period leading up to Japan’s defeat in World War II starting with the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-5 and including the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5.

            The section has an overall title of “When the world was embroiled in war.”

            The narration of the footage does not use the term aggression regarding Japan’s wartime behavior.

            On the Nanjing Massacre and Bombing of Chongqing, it simply states a large number of residents were killed.

            The exhibits removed from the museum were thrown away late last year.

            “Our storage room is small and very old,” explained Shigenobu Okada, the head of the museum.

            Kazuya Sakamoto, a professor of international politics at Osaka University, defended the removal of the exhibits.

            “It runs a risk of instilling an erroneous idea in the public that air raids (on Osaka Prefecture) were only expected since Japan did terrible things abroad,’” he said. “There is a need to fully convey the suffering of local residents first. After this, officials can get the public to ponder the development leading up to the aerial bombings, as well as Japan’s aggression.”

            But Keiichi Harada, professor of modern Japanese history at Bukkyo University in Kyoto, said the display depicting Japan’s wartime acts was vital in offering a bigger picture of the war.

            “If the tendency to scale back exhibits of the aggression continues, war could be glorified and prevent the masses from grasping the reality of war,” he said. “That would make it easier for the nation to go back to war. We need to show both sides of war in peace education.”

          • Probotector

            Right about China, don’t get me started on those bastards, but the US dos not whitewash it’s history to make it look good, actually normally it’s the other way around.

        • doraemon

          “Bear in mind the scale of it what Japan did was far worse than what America had done in ‘nam.”
          Excuse me for a mom, would you please clarify “Scale” , how would you measure “scale” of “probable atrocities”?
          Is there any meanigful difference between minor crimials and serious criminals in war atrocities? Isn’t it just difference between the ones who prevailed and defeated?

          • Probotector

            Scale would be numbers killed and intent, and whether such intent was government sanctioned or just a bunch of cowardly soldiers killing and raping women for the hell of it. What Japan did, rape, mass killing torture, human experimentation, etc. etc. was on orders of the emperoe and the fascist govt of the time. It was broadcast in the newspapers as great victories of the imperial army so on and so forth.

            Although rape, torture, pillaged etc. was committed by a significant number of GIs, and aybe even COs tolerated it, it was never part of US govt. policy.

            “”Is there any meanigful difference between minor crimials and serious criminals in war atrocities?”
            Yes

            “Isn’t it just difference between the ones who prevailed and defeated?”
            Please. You think there are swathes Americans who ‘got away with it’ just living comfortably somewhere? Btw America lost that war, so how did they ‘prevail’?

      • American Marine Vet

        Huh? Americans recruited Vietnamese women with false hopes of jobs, then took them to the war fronts and lined up all our soldiers, raped them, then beat the women if they tried to escape? You fucking wild Japs are not making any sense. But then again Japs were animals, you still are in your mentality.

        • >American Marine Vet
          So if I’m getting this right, Americans are not animals even though your fucking stupid Government literally massacred, possibly millions of people since 2001 when your gay as fuck country started the War on Terror?

          Give me a break.

          Our country, Japan has been a country of peace for 70 years straight, not engaging in any war and at the most, humanitarian peace keeping in Iraq.

          You’re such a fucking Social Justice Warrior Feminists. Disgusting. This is why I hate SJWs to the core. I give zero fucks about shit Veterans like you, as you taint the reputations of good Veterans out there.

          And tell me, don’t you have a spec of speculation as to whether or not 9/11 was an inside job? Your Government can not be trusted at all.

          Please refrain from calling a Japanese a “Jap,” you rude piece of shit. Do I call people chinks or gooks or kikes or niggers? No. And was I initially hostile at all? No. Fuck off, mate.

          • nineteen85

            Jap can be the shortened form of Japanese, much like eroge is a shortened(albeit a portmanteau and in Japanese) form for erotic game. Calling someone a chink makes no sense since there is no ‘K’ in Chinese, a gook(what are they?), kike(again, wtf are they?). As for nigger, well, that’d be akin to calling the Japs, Rapists in Denial, Perpetuating Whitewashes and Posturing. Or RiDPWaPs for short.

            Which is highly offensive for sure. I certainly don’t do that. But I am pointing out the flaw in your argument.

  • I’m impressed by the falt of common sense and ignorance of the Japanese regarding this subject, It’s pretty clear to the rest of the world that the comfort women were sexual slaves, so sad.

    • troll harder

      It truly is very sad…

  • R. Vandaka

    I do hope the Nobel committee would investigate on the Comfort Women issue. They will find that Japan had already apologize and compensate the victims in the treaty of 1965 between Japan and Republic of Korea, as well as the Asian Women Fund in the 1990s. What South Korea demanding is unacceptable. World will find Korea as a fool.

    • troll harder

      ummm… This maybe news to you but all the insincere apologies and compensation is already known… AS WELL as the continues denials, whitewashing and justifications made by the Japanese administration, apologist japanophiles and right wing nationalists…

      The only ones that are looking like fools is Japan because of the above mentioned groups… Right-wing leaning leaders, revisionist and Japanese apologist (like yourself) or Japanophiles… keep it up! you are doing a great service!

      • doraemon

        So far, absolutely NO apology NO compensations whatsoever.

        It is matter of time the entire world would acknowledge ….

        http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/688435.html

        • troll harder

          Yes just man up and own your mistakes… simple… yes? institutionalize punishment/consequences for denials/whitewashing… then you can hold your head up high as a leading nation in Asia. Something that Japan is not very good at… and the world acknowledges that…

          • At one point, Japan offered to compensate these women but they needed 3rd party help to deliver the money. They asked Korea to help organize the compensation but they refused to accept the help.

            Therefore, I don’t understand why Korea continues to bitch about compensation ’till this day, if they are still bitching about it.

            Yes, the whitewashing needs to stop, but Korea is quite sketchy and I sometimes get the feeling that they’re profesional victims.

          • troll harder

            No one cares why you don’t understand why some in Korea (or China/Dutch/Pinoy/Maylay/US/Australian/etc) won’t let go… The bigger picture escapes you and many more in Japan…

            The rest of the world is either half interested people that on the fence or don’t care… for those half interested folks, they will on lean on the side of least resistance (lazy moral victory) … meaning… no matter how much you cry foul about how Koreans go on about apologies or compensation, the world will cringe more at the fact Japan whitewashes/denies the past atrocities.

            That same group also will and do, cringe at the half ass attempt to pay compensation by saying it should have come directly from the Japanese government and not a 3rd party. That factoid only adds fuel to the fire of “look that Japanese are not sincere at all” argument… get it???

            Japan has the golden opportunity in this situation to look like the mature leader in Asia, it tries to be… but simply lacks the ability to see the larger opportunity…

            Face is a bitch, particularly when it’s imaginary…

          • troll harder

            To your point on Korean’s playing the professional victim role… Japanese are on par… I can say this with the highest degree of confidence… why???? 50% of family is Korean and the other is Japanese.

          • bumfromkorea

            The “compensation” primarily came from private sources rather than the government, and the recipients wanted the money from the Japanese government rather than from a handful of well meaning Japanese citizens.

            Contrary to what the Japanese imperialists and Japanophile apologists constantly claim, it’s not about the money.

          • doraemon

            Not exact. Different from the countries like Philippine, Indonesia, which respected the intention of each individuals, In case of S.Korea, Teitaikyo, NGO and Korean medias orchestrated rejections by disgustinglly taking social sanctions against 7 women who initially received compensations. Nonetheless, It ended up with total 61 korean women (out of 207 then-offcially registered victims) who recieved compensations. 54 women (61 minus initial 7 women who were socially denounced badly),looking at those poor 7 Halmeonis, secretly approached to AWF asking for reciept in strictly confidential manner. It might not be money. Yes. At least, those 61 Halmeonis, supposedly wanted to have quiet life puting an end to being socially abused.

          • bumfromkorea
          • doraemon

            Oh Yeah, Not all of those halmeonis living in the house together supposedly not tough enough like the one who changes their dubious testimonies such often. They deserve rests.

          • Ah, interesting. If you don’t mind, can you link me to a source if possible? Apart from that, the last part where you said “it’s not about the money” is how they don’t want the money from the private sources, but rather from the government itself?

            I got my information from the Japan Times, mind you. Perhaps their information is wrong?

          • troll harder
          • Sorry, I’d like to know what you are trying to point me into? The comments section is it?

  • Aoi Komori

    What is the “Comfort Women Issue?”
    Please read and look “The U.S. Military official document” etc…
    http://nadesiko-action.org/?page_id=2015
    No evidence which they were slaves except their testimonies.
    On the contrary, there are many proofs or evidences which they were sex workers.
    If you are fair, you can’t say a Japanese government guilty.

    • Chucky3176

      187 historians around the world who sent a letter to Abe, disagrees with you.

      http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2015/05/06/55/0301000000AEN20150506003500315F.html

      “Please read and look “The U.S. Military official document” etc…”

      Uh… no… The US military in that official document does prove the sex slave women are telling the truth. Did you even try reading it? It’s just that the Japanese delete the parts that are damaging to them. The report is also problematic because it described only 20 women out of 200,000 who were enslaved. Also it’s a huge problem that this US military report records are based on the testimonials made by the two captured Japanese pimps that deliberately underplay their own deeds (yet still managed to incriminate themselves somehow, tells you how bad things were).

      http://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/2rvc3p/this_document_claims_the_korean_comfort_women/

      • doraemon

        Better read original statement first, and compare against how Yonhap News reported. Does it look clean, non-biased report? http://www.japancrush.com/2015/stories/surviving-korean-comfort-women-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-prize.html#comment-2010666427

        • doraemon
          • doraemon
          • Chucky3176

            What problem do you have with the Yonhap report? They’re quoting the letter to Japan, virtually word for word, including:

            “Among the many instances of wartime sexual violence
            and military prostitution in the twentieth century, the “comfort women” system was distinguished by its large scale and systematic management under the military, and by its exploitation of young, poor, and vulnerable women in areas colonized or occupied by Japan”.

            Obviously the group of historians were disgusted enough to write a letter to Japan, calling for the stopping of lies. I do disagree with one thing with the Yonhap report though, the letter never mentioned anything about their calling an apology. I do believe that word has gotten habitually misused by everybody when what they really mean is that Japan should start telling the truth for once.

          • doraemon

            “Virtually word by word” Huh? Well, I forgot but just remembered that you are, after all, Chucky. I wouldn’t bother telling you “word by word”. You are 1/2 Japanese and are reading Japanese , aren’t you? Read this.

            http://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/68890

          • Chucky3176

            Huh? Who said I was half Japanese? But wow, just look at that pathetic deflection of Japanese media, pointing to the one of the parts in the letter that says some Japanese historians still have some conscious left in them to tell the truth. And Japanese take that as if the letter writers are agreeing with the Japanese position, while failing to report on the other 98% of the content. LOL… This is typical Japanese fashion of how they fabricate things. Just pathetic.

    • troll harder

      Come on… man or women up and own the mistakes made in the past… stop this childish BS… Your post only furthers to embarrass Japan and portrays it as a nation that cannot own up to it’s past… It’s really not that hard and would do wonders to the global image of Japan. There is no face to be saved and you only are doing a disservice to Japan by posting such drivel… truly embarrassing…

  • RocKStaR

    Can someone explain to me why they think they should get the peace prize? Have these women vocally forgiven the Japanese for what has happened, have they advocated for calm and peace when anti-Japanese sentiment has risen? Have they done anything for peace or is this just another political Nobel peace prize nomination that further degrades what the prize is and what it stands for?

    • Chucky3176

      Normally I would say they shouldn’t get it. But this time, I say they should get it, only because that would draw more attention to Abe government’s efforts to revise, wipe out Japan’s WWII record, and turn these women into whores.

      • Rutim

        lol, finally a chance for a Nobel Prize for Korean! Better to use prostitues than science it seems.

      • RocKStaR

        So it is only ok to use the Nobel Peace Prize for political purposes when you agree with them? When they actually make a contribution to peace then a nomination can be taken seriously until then this is just stupid. I mean how can you even justify it? There are other forums or prizes that are appropriate for their goals but this isn’t one of them.

  • bumfromkorea

    At this point, Koreans should just say “fuck it”. After three separate elections in which the Japanese voters have expressed their love for Shinzo Abe and his merry band of historical revisionists in spite of his *very* public display of glorification of the Empire of Japan, Koreans should no longer give their neighbor the benefit of the doubt. The demand, the anger, and the frustration Koreans show in this issue with the Japanese are all based on the assumption that the Japanese voters do have basic human decency. At this point, such benefit of the doubt are not deserved, and the Koreans should just stop expecting the Japanese to “do the right thing” like any normal human beings would. The Japanese people, as a whole, either don’t give a shit that their leaders are calling these women prostitutes, or they actually agree with the notion (as so many of the comments above and below demonstrates). That’s what representative democracy is. Don’t like it? THEN STOP VOTING FOR THESE FUCKERS.

    I mean, just how many times do the Japanese need to call their former sexual slavery victims prostitutes before the assumption that they have basic human decency becomes untenable? Next time Abe or his ministers talk about how the Comfort Women are opportunistic slutty whores, the Koreans should just shrug and go “What else can you expect from the Japanese?” instead of getting angry because they expect better from the Japanese people. I feel that we have reached that point, after 60+ years of this bullshit.

    • doraemon

      So, All Japanese are indecent, far from normal human beings unless they vote for other parties than LDP due only to this issue? Who the fuck are you? Who knows some might do so next election , some wouldn’t.
      Mind your own country’s election.

      Who has ever proved that none, litterally none of these, as much as so-said 200k comfortwomen all willingly volunteered for the works?

      How the fuck Koreans have been dealing with Korean pimps, village chiefs, local officers, Mama & Papa of the stations, who decieved, tied up the girls with heavy debts, threatend, intervined in those human traffickings

      How the fuck Koreans have been treating victims of Korean comfort stations before/during/after Korean War and Vietnam War. Have they ever made sincere apologies or compensations whatsoever?
      Are they any different from victims of Japanese military comfort stations? In terms of What? Scale? Because they were really professional prostitues?
      “BIG DEAL ! FUCK IT ALL”

      • bumfromkorea

        Don’t literally prove my point by repeating the exact same lines uttered by the Japanese netizens and Japanophile apologists as an argument… against an argument about how the Japanese electorates either don’t give a shit about or agree with disgusting bullshit notions that you just regurgitated, no less.

        • Chucky3176
          • bumfromkorea

            *shrug* What else can you expect from the Japanese?

        • Chucky3176

          Also read Japanese media taking this report, of earthquake victims in Nepal being sold to prostitution in India

          http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin/2015/05/06/0200000000AKR20150506032600009.HTML

          Then turning it into Nepal women being sold to prostitution in South Korea.

          http://www.recordchina.co.jp/a108162.html

          Japan’s media’s propaganda machine is a farce.

        • doraemon

          Is that all you can say? You seem repeating your same phrase critisizing Japanese electorates all the time but get quiet about Korean comfort stations, Korean War atrocities.
          Is it “Because others do the same , you cannot whitewash your history” Again or what? Koreans dont give a shit about those, right?

          • bumfromkorea

            Also, don’t write “Is that all you can say?” and then just regurgitate the arguments you already wrote. It makes your obliviousness a bit more glaring.

            Anyway, as I’ve already noted in my original comment, I don’t expect anything from you and your ilks any more. I no longer have expectations for Rising-Sun-Flag-Waving Japanese netizens and Japanophile apologists that I would have with normal human beings. Arguing with you people point by point while assuming that you have functioning moral compasses (that human beings usually have) like I’ve done in the past is just a colossal waste of my time.

            Yes, Comfort Women are slutty whores out to get some free Japanese $$$. Mhm. Whatever you say.

          • doraemon

            decent human beings with moral compass ususally clean their hands before attacking others for 25+years. I thought.
            Funny, for non-residents of Abe’s electral district, what can be done to avoid Abe and his ilks? Any suggestion? Voting
            for DPJ, Hashimoto’s Party? Commies? No thanks. LOL
            As much as you know, Major academic backbones who supports Korean side came from inside of Japan and now your argument,.. Japanese dont give a shit about or agreeing with disgusting notions.. big deal

          • bumfromkorea

            Buddy, I know you’re confused. But you can’t simultaneously call Comfort Women opportunistic whores (while petting the heads of the ones who doesn’t want to protest as the good ones), argue “What can we do? Abe and his cronies are too strong politically! T_T”, AND try to talk about how the Japanese academics disagree with Abe (and your) assertions (as the academia of the rest of the world already agrees).

            “I didn’t kill that guy! And even if I did, it was out of self defense! That guy was being an asshole to me! And murder is wrong! But I didn’t kill that guy! And it was self-defense!”

            http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-11/28/10/enhanced/webdr04/edit-12159-1417188162-21.jpg

          • doraemon

            No I am not. lol. You dont even know my own perosnal view w/r this issue. I am just lining up what I want say as much as possible before you run away. So why not cut down to just 2 subjects..
            Decent people with moral compass should not put lid on their own sins ( particularly, if the sins are essentially same sort) if they want to keep accusing others.
            Your argument about Japanese voters are b/s if you happen to know Japanese voters vote for Japan and what party politics is. and tha fact Japanese academias, lawyers, activists supporting Halmoneis.
            Now What?

          • bumfromkorea

            “You dont even know my own perosnal view w/r this issue.”

            You made it pretty clear in this comment thread, I think. Again, you can’t argue that comfort women’s claims are “dubious” (while petting the “good ones” for being so good), try to defend Japan’s current disgusting behaviors against the comfort women by pointing at the Korean comfort women stations (that nobody in Korea are denying, unlike a certain prime minister and a certain majority party of a certain country) and then proceed to claim Japanese voters’ innocence because of the “party politics” and the Japanese academia. That’s not an argument. That’s a schizophrenic arguing with himself.

            But, you know, at the end of the day, I don’t expect you to make arguments that are palatable to decent human beings or make sense in general. Claim your victory-by-last-words. I’m going to “run away”.

          • doraemon

            “(that nobody in Korea are denying, unlike a certain prime minister and a certain majority party of a certain country)”

            When, which PM of Japan denied comfort station systems and Japanese government/Military involvement?

            Your frustration about Abe and his ilks lead to bigger frustration about Japanese entire electrates, which is b/s and does not wait for meaningful argument, does it?

            Again, Abe and his cabinet have not offcially revise Kono Statements. Why do I need to defend Japanese government that hard? Its turn of S.Korea. Any apologies? Compensations? Why not apply for UNESCO Memorials record together Japanese comfort stations and Korean Comfort stations? Good Idea Is it?

          • doraemon

            “the Korean comfort women stations (that nobody in Korea are denying”
            BTW, This. Did you make a slip of tongue?
            I guess so. lol

      • troll harder

        Jeez you are a thick one…

  • Probotector

    I think Japan has been selective of who they’ve apologised to and owned up to for the atrocities of the war and the Korean occupation before it. I can’t speak for anyone in Asia, but I know that they made an apology to my country a number of years back, in the ’90s, for the treatment of POWs back then, and there’s even a shrine built to commemorate it in my home town. Better late than never I suppose. Even so, there’s still a long way to go before they muster the courage to own up to everything Japan did back then and to teach the truth to their posterity.

    • troll harder

      Agreed… IMO… It’s the stupid concept of face that is really preventing Japan from moving forward in the (morally) right direction with it’s East Asian neighbors…

      It is baffling how the bigger picture just escapes them… and as I posted below, they are squandering a golden chance to be a mature leader in East Asia… “shrug”

      • Probotector

        Well, they certainly haven’t been belligerent since, and have proven themselves to be a notable leader in exporting soft power over the decades since. This however doesn’t justify whitewashing history or refusing to admit to past atrocities because they perhaps (I’m not sure of their motivations exactly) feel Koreans and others are less deserving of it than, say, one of the Western nations they fought back then, and now perhaps look up to.

        • troll harder

          Agreed once again (on all points made)!

          There are plenty of theories as to why it’s been so hard to admit their past atrocities.

          • troll harder

            sorry clicked post before finishing…

            “There are plenty of theories as to why it’s been so hard to admit their past atrocities. We can speculate until the cows come in but we won’t do that. =)”

          • Probotector

            You can edit comments you’ve already made, so there’s no need to make an whole new one to amend a mistake in your previous one ;).

          • troll_harder

            Yeah, I just created my account so I can do so going forward.

            Cheers mate

  • Hiz Oku

    but…what about the comfort women from all the other wars from around the world? don’t they get a nobel peace prize?

  • Say No To Japan

    Japan’s is currently under severe pressure by the Japanese government to wipe clean their history slate, to redefine their records in WWII. Japan is no longer a real democracy, but only reminds you of how the Chinese government behaves . Read this horrible account.

    Peace museum, caving in to threats of closure, scraps wartime ‘aggression’ exhibits

    May 01, 2015

    THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

    OSAKA–A museum famed for its many exhibits showing Japanese aggression during World War II has removed them, bowing to pressure from conservative politicians.

    “We had no choice but to remove the exhibition on the aggression to ensure the survival of the museum,” a source close to the museum explained.

    Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto had threatened to close down the Osaka International Peace Center museum when he was governor of the prefecture.

    Hashimoto’s successor as Osaka governor and a close ally, Ichiro Matsui, praised the facelift when he toured the museum in the city’s Chuo Ward on April 30, the day the facility reopened after renovations.

    “This looks better now,” Matsui told reporters. “I believe exhibits should not represent the view of one side when there are diverse perceptions (on the war).”

    The Osaka International Peace Center is operated by an entity funded by the Osaka prefectural government and Osaka municipal government.

    Among the dozens of exhibits removed were panels on Japan’s invasion of the continent, the colonial rule of the Korean Peninsula, suffering in Southeast Asian countries due to Japanese aggression, text describing the 1937 Nanjing Massacre and abuse of prisoners of war, and photos showing piles of dead bodies and civilians being buried alive.

    Instead, the museum now houses an expanded section on U.S. air raids in Osaka Prefecture between December 1944 and August 1945 and shows a 14-minute war-related video in which Japan is not labeled an aggressor.

    The Osaka International Peace Center was established in 1991 and was known for being a rare public facility in Japan shedding an equal amount of light on the nation’s role before and during World War II as well as the sufferings of the Japanese during that period.

    Masaaki Arimoto, who led the secretariat of the museum for three years from 1992, said the facility opened at a time when there was growing awareness of the importance of learning about Japan’s militaristic past.

    “There were advances in the research on Japan’s aggression, and many of those who fought in the war were alive,” said Arimoto, 78. “People in Osaka shared a notion that they would never be able to fully understand the backdrop behind the air raids without knowledge of Japan’s acts in other parts of Asia.”

    Although the museum attracted about 70,000 to 80,000 visitors annually, it has long been condemned by conservative politicians and organizations.

    In some cases, the museum was forced to withdraw or revise exhibits following protests.

    Yoshinori Kobayashi, a renowned manga artist, denounced the museum by calling it a “system to brainwash viewers in the name of a peace museum” in his 1998 manga “Sensoron,” which defended Japan’s actions during World War II.

    The critical turning point came in 2011, when the Hashimoto-led Osaka Ishin no Kai became the dominant political party in both the prefectural and municipal assemblies.

    The museum was already planning a renovation when Osaka Ishin no Kai party members at the prefectural assembly in the autumn of that year lambasted it, with one saying it had “too many unbalanced exhibits.”

    In response, Hashimoto, who was the governor at the time and pushing through a review of public affiliated entities, pledged to “consider the possible closure of the museum if the exhibits are determined to be inappropriate.”

    As a result of the criticism, the Osaka International Peace Center proposed in 2013 to scale back the display on the aggression and widen the exhibits on the air raids.

    What was installed as a direct replacement for the items on the aggression was 14 minutes of footage portraying the period leading up to Japan’s defeat in World War II starting with the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-5 and including the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5.

    The section has an overall title of “When the world was embroiled in war.”

    The narration of the footage does not use the term aggression regarding Japan’s wartime behavior.

    On the Nanjing Massacre and Bombing of Chongqing, it simply states a large number of residents were killed.

    The exhibits removed from the museum were thrown away late last year.

    “Our storage room is small and very old,” explained Shigenobu Okada, the head of the museum.

    Kazuya Sakamoto, a professor of international politics at Osaka University, defended the removal of the exhibits.

    “It runs a risk of instilling an erroneous idea in the public that air raids (on Osaka Prefecture) were only expected since Japan did terrible things abroad,’” he said. “There is a need to fully convey the suffering of local residents first. After this, officials can get the public to ponder the development leading up to the aerial bombings, as well as Japan’s aggression.”

    But Keiichi Harada, professor of modern Japanese history at Bukkyo University in Kyoto, said the display depicting Japan’s wartime acts was vital in offering a bigger picture of the war.

    “If the tendency to scale back exhibits of the aggression continues, war could be glorified and prevent the masses from grasping the reality of war,” he said. “That would make it easier for the nation to go back to war. We need to show both sides of war in peace education.”

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