Controversy As Magazine Claims Ideal Girl Weighs Just 37kg

Is Kiritani Mirei the ideal body type

Is Kiritani Mirei the ideal body type?

Teen magazine Seventeen has courted controversy with its latest edition, in which high school boys give their opinion on their ideal girl.

When it came to a girl’s physical appearance, one comment noted that the ideal girl was 152cm (around 4 foot 11 inches) tall, and 37kg (81 pounds). This prompted an immediate online backlash from girls, who slated this ideal as “impossible”. 2ch netizens were equally pragmatic, with many suggesting that anyone that thin would be essentially undateable.

While the boy who made the comment probably had very little experience of the feminine form, and might therefore not be particularly well informed on what real girls and women actually look like, the magazine’s decision to publish numbers like these could have a significant influence on how their teenage readers perceive their own growing bodies.

Luckily, this time, girls weren’t afraid to fight back.

What do you think? Is it potentially damaging for a magazine to discuss ideal body types for young girls rather than showing them how to be healthy and happy as they are?

From Livedoor News:

The Ideal Girl Is “152cm, 37kg”; Girls Angry That Boys “Ignore Reality”

A netizen's photo of the magazine spread.A netizen's photo of the magazine spread.

A netizen’s photo of the magazine spread.

The ideal body for a girl as seen by boys, which was featured in the latest edition of teen fashion magazine Seventeen (Shueisha), has created controversy online.

It seems that writing “152cm, 37kg” as the ideal height and weight for a girl has angered girls themselves.

“Impossible. Boys just don’t know anything”.

The August edition of Seventeen, which went on sale on July 1, has a special spread entitled “This Is Our Ideal Girl, Natsu”, where 11 boys, who were mainly high school students, commented from various angles on their ideal girl.

In the article there was an item on figures, and as the boys gave their image of an ideal body type, one high school boy insisted that “152cm, 37kg” was good.

When high school girls, shocked at this, started tweeting the picture from the magazine along with comments such as “Way too harsh wwwwww 37 kilos? Please! wwww you couldn’t survive www”, the shock spread online.

Ultimately this was just a comment made by one high school boy, but the numbers 152cm, 37kgs have stuck for the girls:

“Boys idealise too much”

Impossible. Boys just don’t get it”

“You’d have to take out your internal organs for sure”

“I cleared this level good and proper when I entered middle school”

Floods of comments like these, tinged with anger, were posted.

At the same time, as well as there being those who were worried about health issues like malnutrition and amenorrhea, there were also quite a few comments from boys who were disturbed by it, saying things like “Who’d want someone that scrawny…”

In this case, a girl would have a BMI index of 16, calculated from body weight and height, and therefore would be considered as “on the slim side” (for someone under twenty years of age). However, that doesn’t mean to say that a particular woman would be unhealthily slim, and even online there were a sprinkling of opinions that said “She’d probably be pretty small, but there are people like that out there”, “That’s not so different from me”, and “I’m living healthily at 161cm/43kg”.

“As Thin As Kiritani Mirei, With Breasts As Big As Kojiharu

But surprisingly, the high school boys were even greedier when it came to their ideal, who is:

“As thin as Kiritani Mirei, with breasts as big as Kojiharu (Kojima Haruna from AKB48)

Boys cited Kojima Haruna's breast as being an ideal asset.

Boys cited Kojima Haruna’s breast as being an ideal asset.

This truly was “cherry picking” from these two women who are extremely popular with young girls.

Kiritani, who has a slender body type, claims her height is 163.5cm and her body weight is 39kg (according to a profile from a 2010 article). Going by this, her BMI is a shocking 14.5. It seems that Kojima has not revealed her bust size, but she is known as being the biggest-breasted girl in AKB, and is rumoured to be a “D-Cup” among fans.

If you are a girl who is 152cm and 37kg, then without a doubt you will be dainty, but while you might be similar to Kiritani, to then also possess breasts to rival Kojima’s seems pretty difficult if you think about it realistically.

Articles about body weight in women’s magazines often cause controversy, so this is not an isolated case. In May 2013, the July edition of women’s fashion magazine CanCam put the spotlight on “Puni-ko”, girls who were chubby but not fat, saying that “Nowadays, Puni-ko get all the guys”, but this was slated online as a negative headline because women claimed the magazine’s criteria were strange.

Comments from 2ch.net:

毒霧(茨城県)@\(^o^)/:

Nope, that’s scrawny.

チンシンク(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/:

37 kilos would be way too scrawny (ヾノ・∀・`) just couldn’t do it.

ツームストンパイルドライバー(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/:

Scrawny.
She wouldn’t only have no body fat but no muscles either.

32文ロケット砲(西日本)@\(^o^)/:

37 kilos w
That’s an elementary school student, right?

河津落とし(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/:

Come on, no one ever said this www
If your body weight is in the thirties, I’ll give you the truth ww. Get some burgers down you.

アンクルホールド(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/:

152, 37kg — that’d be a complete freak, right?

フォーク攻撃(dion軍)@\(^o^)/:

37kg, that’s anorexia or something.

河津落とし(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/:

Look, men’s ideal is a body that curvy without being fat.
Girls are just going crazy with this scrawny supremacy stuff.

オリンピック予選スラム(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/:

Only a midget man would say that he wants a girl who is 152cm tall.

超竜ボム(庭)@\(^o^)/:

Bones.
Even 40kg would be too scrawny…

フロントネックロック(三重県)@\(^o^)/:

There is no girl who is 37kg…

カーフブランディング(長屋)@\(^o^)/:

What’s the height of the bastard who said a girl should be 152cm?

逆落とし(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/:

Thing is, you get a tiny little chick around 150, by the time she gets old she’s gonna be short and fat and there won’t be a damn thing she can do about it, so if you’re looking for a wife, a slim girl around 160 is probably gonna look good her whole life.

ムーンサルトプレス(長野県)@\(^o^)/:

This is normal…for anime characters.

アンクルホールド(空)@\(^o^)/:

Isn’t that too small?
Were those guys from some kind of dwarf club?

リバースネックブリーカー(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/:

If a girl was that size, it would be because she’d been dieting since she was a kid, right?
There are some small, scrawny girls who got that way through malnutrition.
Their legs are short and the balance of their bodies is bad, so even if they are small they’re not cute at all.

アンクルホールド(空)@\(^o^)/:

If you slept with her, her ribs would crack and her pelvis would creak.
How about it? Ideal, right?

かかと落とし(catv?)@\(^o^)/:

Under 160cm, over 80kg is ideal.
If you don’t got no meat then you ain’t no woman.
Certified chicken bones.

タイガースープレックス(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/:

Got to be 170cm, 55kg, with 95cm tits.

デンジャラスバックドロップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/:

Around 172cm and 58kg is good.

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  • Not sure why one stupid anonymous comment warrants anything more than “lol what an idiot”. For the record, 152cm/37kg equates to a BMI of 16.0; the cut-off point for being underweight is ≤18.5. Based on personal experience, a girl I used to like had a past BMI (going by her several-years-old driver’s license) of 18.4. Knowing her, I would consider the ≤18.5 cutoff point to be a pretty fair metric, subject to a ±0.1 margin. During a recent extended fasting period I whittled down to 18.0, but not eating is kind of a deal-breaker.

    • besudesu

      Yeah, the cut off point for being underweight is the same almost everywhere, and yet in Japan I feel that people are more concerned about the upper limits (obesity starts a BMI of 22, I seem to recall) than the lower ones. In particular, young actresses always cite what many might consider to be unhealthily low BMIs in their “profiles”. Also this article doesn’t say “underweight” but rather “on the slim side” (I hope that the reason for that is because they don’t want to marginalize people who naturally have low BMIs, but I suspect it is not)

      I agree though, one stupid comment is one stupid comment. But when it comes to teenagers, I really wish teen magazines would stop publishing people’s weights and heights — some teenage girls, as the reaction to this article proves — only see those unattainable numbers and nothing else.

      • Living in Japan seems to have even raised your own standards to unrealistic expectations––obesity starts at 30. 😛

        Overweight starts at 25.

        Perhaps you were referring to what the Japanese consider obese. Regardless, I’ll go ahead and point out:

        • 29% of Japanese males ≥ 20 years old have a BMI ≥ 25.
        • 18% of Japanese females ≥ 20 years old have a BMI ≥ 25.

        I’ll include some comparative data for anyone who’s interested.

        • besudesu

          Oh yeah. Living in Japan can do that, but cut off a limb and your BMI soon falls below 18 (^ – ^)

          Actually I think Japan calls the first 25+ category “obese level 1” rather than “overweight”, but that’s just semantics. I have also heard anecdotes about doctors telling women (even immediately postpartum) that a BMI of 22 is “obese”, but that says more about the doctor than the index…At any rate, I think that the public perception of what constitutes overweight is really the issue — and not just in Japan.

  • vonskippy

    I would have thought those “pillow girls” would weigh way way way less then that.

  • bang2tang

    My friend height is 155 cm and her weight is 38 kg & she is A cup.

    • Boris

      And you’d still bang her?

  • masterchief

    theyre all wrong. the ideal girl is one that is in 2d

    • tomoe723

      With this kind of idealism, the only girls these boys will ever have will be 2d ones. I mean seriously, I even think they’ll grow up to become pedos. These boys certainly DO NOT represent the ideals of the majority out there… I hope. LOL.

      • Comebackkid13

        Bitter much?

        • tomoe723

          I dunno where you’re coming from or how on earth you found bitterness in my comment… but no, I’m not bitter.

          If you really want a psycho-analysis of these boys’ thinking, it’s just that. All the normal boys I’ve been with in high school never had these kinds of ideals. Sure they want pretty face, sexy curves, wonderful smile, cute laughter, etc. etc. but to specify BW and height ratios is clear influence of media’s conditioning (especially anime) on these kids nowadays. Which is warping these boys’ minds to an unrealistic anti-social perspective with regards to all the other girls out there.

          And the magazine is in on it.

  • realist

    Probably, the guy who wrote that was 160cm, 47kg or something LOL. You have to take into account how much of the weight is fat and how much is muscle and if her skeletal structure is large or small. Because of those factors, sometimes, girls with very strange numbers can look very good and girls with ideal numbers can look not so good so there really isn’t an ideal. If I absolutely had to say an ideal, I’d pick 163cm, 50kg.

  • Science Patrol

    Be strong not skinny.

  • MyMotto

    152 cm and 37 kg, that’s a 10 year old isn’t it? I’m 157 cm and 45 kg and I don’t even eat that much…I’d have to get some ribs removed to get to 37 kg.

  • Zen my Ass

    No wonder all the single ladies I know are happy to stay single.

  • letmeexplain

    they forgot to mention she should also be 12 years old, then it weight makes perfect sense

    • David

      Well, it IS Japan so I think that is a given.

    • Boris

      Bet you do.

    • David

      I assume you mean in photographs? Then you can imagine she say s”Yes big daddy!” lol

    • donscarletti

      Um, torrent or something?

  • who cares about what some virgin male students want…

    • Boris

      We were all virgin students at some point knowing little of the other anatomy.

    • Virginland

      Wel you do for one, weeaboo

  • balls

    Yeesh. No thanks. I would be like banging a 10 year old.

    • Boris

      it*

      I think you mean it rather than I.

  • David

    I think the idea girl for these guys is any that would let them. LOL Seriously though, this has really pissed off the women, even the ones writing on this forum.

  • commander

    The realistic problem with that boy’s comment about the ideal body type for girls is that any girl who has that ideal physique will have no interest in that boy.

  • Ken Morgan

    37kilos? it the weight of a British woman’s leg, seriously women here average about 15 stone and yet consider themselves thin.

    • XXX_BAPxSECRETxUNTOUCH

      Your gonna sell us out just like that? Thank you lol

  • Xio Gen

    Kiritani’s lying. If she were that thin she’d look like a skeleton.

  • Gerhana

    He wanna bang a hobbit. The supermodel version of a dwarf. Less hairy too. Typical middle earth male chauvinist. In truth, he just cant handle dwarf, the real female.

    • David

      lol

  • FYIADragoon

    I doubt there is anyone anywhere who would want a woman like that. All of their female celebrities, including the idol types, aren’t anywhere near that kind of measurement. A slim lady is nice too, but those kind of proportions sound extremely unhealthy.

  • BillBo

    That’s underweight by like 20-25 pounds

  • ts

    Ridiculous. She will die in bed.

  • fawkthegreen

    japanese are known pedophiles, this is solid proof that japanese men are pedophiles. pedophalia must be a integratable part of japanese culture

    • David

      Except these comments didn’t come from Japanese men, so I think that undermines your ‘proof’ a little.

  • Pete of Perth

    But what about the tentacles?

  • Zappa Frank

    37kg ok, is irrealistic…. but also 1.52m tall?! come on, do you really find attractive such short women? are Japanese girls really that short? I think is even hard to find a girl so short…

    • the cure

      not so hard.
      the average height of japanese women at 18 is 158cm.
      1.52 cm is 6cm shorter than the average.

  • Guest

    I’m 175 cm tall and weigh about 57kg. I think a girl who is 152cm and weighs 37kg would almost look like me and I’m not scrawny or gaunt. I look absolutely healthy. Weight always depends on height/body frame and if the Person is shorter there is nothing wrong with weighing 37kg.

    • 175cm @ 57kg = BMI of 18.6
      152cm @ 37kg = BMI of 16.0

      You would need to lose 8kg in order to have a BMI of 16.
      I dunno if this changes your mind; I just thought I’d point it out.

      • Guest

        Well whatever, I think the BMI system is flawed because according to this, body builders would be overweight. What about people like me who are small framed? I used to weigh a llittle less than now and I still looked perfectly healthy. I never looked underweight.
        For example the Rhythmic Gymnast Son Yeon Jae has BMI of 16.0 and she looks healthy.

        • BMI is not a religion; it is a metric. All metrics need to be used properly. Just because BMI doesn’t apply to “body builders” doesn’t mean it’s irrelevant to the general public, unless you think the general public consists of body builders.

          Going by the data on her Google profile (157cm/43kg), Son Yeon Jae has a BMI of 17.4. Obviously height and weight vary over time, but I think you’d have to agree that there is validity to the concept that a BMI can be too low. Whether you consider the cut-off point to be 18 or 17 or 16 does not negate concept that low enough of a BMI can clearly be an indicator of problems. Surely you would agree that a BMI of 9 or 10 would be far too low (at least, I hope).

  • Short_Anon

    I love how people take this as an excuse to insult short girls, because people are neeeeever genetically short and neeeever in proportion (apparently dwarfism is the same thing as being short yep yep yep). Wishing your assholes a nice change in size when you find out your *supermodel girlfriend* (because tall women are supermodels, and short women are stumpy legged dwarfs that look like children) ends up actually being your boyfriend. You like your cock being at level height with a girls cunt? Then you will LOVEEE having her/his cock at the same height as your ass~Hope your asses leak for days, and the poundings last for years!

  • Yoda

    37kg. Hmmm

  • Haelin

    Is japanese guys that tall to begin with?

  • MissFalling

    @AngelinaJolie

  • Enkidu

    I did some research and 152cm, 37kg is actually very close to the average height and weight of a 12 year old girl (20% of 12 year old girls in the USA are even lighter than that for their height). This is nothing to get upset about.

  • lala

    152cm is 5 ft, not 4 ft 11. I’m 152.4cm and it says I’m 5 ft on my medical records. But anyway I’m 39 kg but that’s because I just have a fast metabolism.

  • saralg1002

    Around 172 cm and 58 kg is good? Try adding 10 kg and you have a healthy and slim body (give or take a few kg depending on bone density and such).

    When I was a teenager I was about 60 to 65 kg, with a height of 170 cm. I was a size small on top (sometimes even XS) and had an A or B cup, depending on manufacturer and such. Always had some booty so I was, and am still, one size bigger on the bottom.
    Still, I was TINY!!! I have a slim bone structure too so my BMI (I know it’s not a measurement of health, but it can be a guide line) was bordering underweight! Now, I was still healthy, but people did give me comments about my weight, especially when I was younger and still growing, but even after I stopped growing height-wise.
    Due to illness and hormonal changes (no more puberty and stuff you know) I gained a lot of weight fast and I think I weighed about 90~95 kg at the most. I’m down to ca 75 now and my ideal would be about 65 to 70. Even though I’m still a size L mostly, I feel quite slim and sexy now. I actually like my body just as much as I did back when I was skinny, maybe even more. The main difference is that now I am more focused on being myself and being happy and healthy for my own sake! I feel more like myself now and I found a style that’s more me. And that’s what really matters when it comes to beauty! 🙂

    Japanese beauty ideals are so messed up it’s scary!!! I really get why anorexia is rising among all genders!
    (Sorry for the long post!)

  • Deborah Ching

    lol i was 152cm and 37kg when i was 17 without even exercising or dieting. now i exceed 40kg sumtimes now im 19 btw

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